Hi everyone, Did anyone ever follow up on this? Best, -Michael On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 7:52 AM, Ayden Férdeline <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I am unable to post to the Policy Committee's list, as I am not a member. > Could someone who is please ask the Policy Committee if they support the > ratification of the attached statement? Sorry to be unable to join the PC's > call last night and to ask myself - the call completely slipped my mind. > Thank you. > > Ayden Férdeline > linkedin.com/in/ferdeline <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline> > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Proposed Consultation Response - Proposal for Lao Script Root > Zone Label Generation Rules (LGR) > Local Time: 10 December 2016 11:27 PM > UTC Time: 10 December 2016 23:27 > From: [log in to unmask] > To: "Milan, Stefania" <[log in to unmask]> > [log in to unmask] > > Thanks for this feedback, Stefania. It is very useful. Taking into account > your suggestions I have reworded the consultation response slightly. There > are now just under 30 minutes until the consultation period ends, and I'm > about to board a plane, so I'm going to submit this comment with a small > note that it has not yet been endorsed by the NCSG Policy Committee but has > been reviewed by three members of the Policy Committee. If the PC is > comfortable supporting this statement after it is submitted, that is > brilliant — if not, it will be my personal remarks. I trust this will be > okay. > > *The Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG) welcomes the opportunity to > comment on the recommendations of the Lao Script Generation Panel (GP) > which has developed a Proposal for the Lao Script Root Zone Label > Generation Rules. We have carefully considered the proposal and support its > integration into the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone. We > congratulate the GP on its excellent work in developing this proposal, and > appreciate the diversity and expertise within the GP, which includes > representatives of the Laos government, registry operation specialists, and > academics interested in the use of the Lao script in top-level domain > names. We support enlargement of the root zone to include more character > sets, because the principles of geographic, linguistic, and cultural > diversity are both important and relevant to ICANN’s activities. We are > pleased to see that the GP has given consideration to the potential for > consumer confusion between visually similar marks in the Lao script and > other scripts such as Thai, and we trust that a comprehensive mitigation > plan to avoid said confusion will be in place at the time of > implementation. Thank you again for inviting our input on your work. We are > grateful to the GP for this opportunity to share our views. As you move > forward with your work, we ask that you keep the NCSG updated on your > progress.* > > Ayden Férdeline > linkedin.com/in/ferdeline <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline> > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Proposed Consultation Response - Proposal for Lao Script Root > Zone Label Generation Rules (LGR) > Local Time: 10 December 2016 3:12 PM > UTC Time: 10 December 2016 21:12 > From: [log in to unmask] > To: [log in to unmask] > > Thanks Ayden for doing this. It is greatly appreciated. > One minor point: would it be possible to make concrete suggestions towards > a "comprehensive mitigation plan"? Just asking, I wouldn't have a clue > myself. I realize that this is last minute, though, and that what I suggest > might require more work... > Either way, I personally (also as a member of the NCSG Policy Committee) > support the submission of this public comment on support of our stakeholder > group. > Thanks again! > Best, Stefania > > ________________________________________ > Da: NCSG-Discuss <[log in to unmask]> per conto di Ayden > Férdeline <[log in to unmask]> > Inviato: sabato 10 dicembre 2016 18.50.06 > A: [log in to unmask] > Oggetto: Re: Proposed Consultation Response - Proposal for Lao Script Root > Zone Label Generation Rules (LGR) > > Hi all, please find attached a new draft of this consultation response > (the text which has changed is in bold for emphasis). Feedback is welcomed: > The Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG) welcomes the opportunity to > comment on the recommendations of the Lao Script Generation Panel (GP) > which has developed a Proposal for the Lao Script Root Zone Label > Generation Rules. We have carefully considered the proposal and support its > integration into the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone. We > congratulate the GP on its excellent work in developing this proposal, and > appreciate the diversity and expertise within the GP, which includes > representatives of the Laos government, registry operation specialists, and > academics interested in the use of the Lao script in top-level domain > names. We support enlargement of the root zone to include more character > sets, because the principles of geographic, linguistic, and cultural > diversity are both important and relevant to ICANN’s activities. We are > pleased to see that the GP has given consideration to the potential for > consumer confusion between visually similar marks in the Lao script and > other scripts, however we would encourage the creation of a more > comprehensive mitigation plan. Thank you again for inviting our input on > your work. We are grateful to the GP for this opportunity to share our > views. As you move forward with your work, we ask that you keep the NCSG > updated on your progress. > > Best wishes, > > Ayden Férdeline > linkedin.com/in/ferdeline<http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline> > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Proposed Consultation Response - Proposal for Lao Script Root > Zone Label Generation Rules (LGR) > Local Time: 10 December 2016 11:38 AM > UTC Time: 10 December 2016 17:38 > From: [log in to unmask] > To: Tapani Tarvainen <[log in to unmask]> > [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>, > [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> > > Tapani, hi- > > Thanks for this feedback. I am just rushing to board a flight to Dallas, > so thought I might quickly send through a revised consultation response. > The only difference here is the addition of the sentence in bold, which I > hope addresses the legitimate concerns that you raised. Do you think this > is adequate? Please note that comments on this consultation close in 12 > hours time, so I am also c/c'ing the Policy Committee into this email in > the hopes that it may still be possible to lodge this response, provided it > is suitable and addresses your concerns (and the concerns of others in the > NCSG). > > The Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG) welcomes the opportunity to > comment on the recommendations of the Lao Script Generation Panel (GP) > which has developed a Proposal for the Lao Script Root Zone Label > Generation Rules. We have carefully considered the proposal and support its > integration into the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone. We > congratulate the GP on its excellent work in developing this proposal, and > appreciate the diversity and expertise within the GP, which includes > representatives of the Laos government, registry operation specialists, and > academics interested in the use of the Lao script in top-level domain > names. We support enlargement of the root zone to include more character > sets, because the principles of geographic, linguistic, and cultural > diversity are both important and relevant to ICANN’s activities. We offer, > however, one word of caution: we encourage the creation of a comprehensive > mitigation plan with measures to avoid consumer confusion where there are > visually similar marks between the Lao script and other scripts. Thank you > again for inviting our input on your work. We are grateful to the GP for > this opportunity to share our views. As you move forward with your work, we > ask that you keep the NCSG updated on your progress. > > Best wishes, > > Ayden Férdeline > linkedin.com/in/ferdeline<http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline> > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Proposed Consultation Response - Proposal for Lao Script Root > Zone Label Generation Rules (LGR) > Local Time: 2 December 2016 4:30 AM > UTC Time: 2 December 2016 10:30 > From: [log in to unmask] > To: [log in to unmask] > > Hi Ayden, > > Thanks for picking this up. I'm looking at the proposal waiting > for next flight towards Mexico, upon very quick reading it seems > pretty good but a few things caught my eye. > > First, the diphthong treatment: it would seem to leave room for > potential confusion by allowing same word to appear in multiple > different forms. > > Now I've forgotten all of the 20 or so words of Lao I once knew and > don't really know if that's a real danger (are there any Lao speakers > among us?), but we might want to flag that in some way. > > I was also looking for a mention of Lao numerals, didn't see any, > not sure if it could be an issue (and too tired to recall or google > how other variants of Arabic numerals have been treated). > > Another thing I found interesting struck is the analysis of > cross-script variants: I'm not quite sure their conclusion to avoid > defining any simply because Thai and Lao code points cannot be mixed > in a label sufficient - again I'd need a Lao or at least Thai speaker > to confirm my suspicion but I could imagine an acronym that'd be > confusingly similar with some font. > > Lacking real expertise I'm not suggesting explicit criticism of any of > those points, but perhaps language that flags them and commends the > Lao GP for considering them and noting that such issues are in general > important and merit thoroughness might work. > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > > > On Dec 01 08:37, Ayden Férdeline ([log in to unmask]) wrote: > > > Greetings all, > > > > I have drafted a brief consultation response on behalf of the NCSG in > relation to the [Proposal for Lao Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules]( > https://www.icann.org/public-comments/lao-lgr-2016-10-24-en) (LGR). > Comments can be submitted until 10 December. I consider the proposal to be > very reasonable and not controversial, so I was thinking we could submit > the following message of support: > > > > > > The Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG) welcomes the opportunity to > comment on the recommendations of the Lao Script Generation Panel (GP) > which has developed a Proposal for the Lao Script Root Zone Label > Generation Rules. We have carefully considered the proposal and support its > integration into the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone. We > congratulate the GP on its excellent work in developing this proposal, and > appreciate the diversity and expertise within the GP, which includes > representatives of the Laos government, registry operation specialists, and > academics interested in the use of the Lao script in top-level domain > names. We support enlargement of the root zone to include more character > sets, because the principles of geographic, linguistic, and cultural > diversity are both important and relevant to ICANN’s activities. Thank you > again for inviting our input on your work. We are grateful to the GP for > this opportunity to share our views. As you move forward with your work, we > ask that you keep the NCSG updated on your progress. > > > > > > You can read the consultation documents in full here: > https://www.icann.org/public-comments/lao-lgr-2016-10-24-en > > > > Please feel free to edit my statement, especially if you think I have > overlooked something. I will forward whatever materials we have to the NCSG > Policy Committee to consider submitting on behalf of the NCSG on 5 > December, to give them a few days to contemplate submission. Thanks! > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Ayden Férdeline > > [linkedin.com/in/ferdeline](http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline) > <http://linkedin.com/in/ferdeline%5D(http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline)> > > > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, > forwarding, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this > information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is > prohibited without the express permission of the sender. If you received > this communication in error, please contact the sender and delete the > material from any computer. > > > >