Hi Tapani,
Why not to stick with the original page "long" URLs but use the hyperlinks
over a text to avoid using 3rd party shorten URLs?

On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 8:41 PM, Tapani Tarvainen <[log in to unmask]
> wrote:

> Yes, clicking them is indeed reasonably safe.
>
> But they are not unproblematic: besides issues already mentioned, they
> mean proofpoint can see whenever they're clicked and can collect
> potentially sensitive information about people. (I don't know if they
> actually do.)
>
> But the archive problem Ayden brought up is perhaps most critical.
> Those links will rather obviously break when Proofpoint dies, one
> way or another, and there's little ICANN can do about it.
>
> A technical solution should be possible: unmunge the links in archives.
> Even better if it could be done by the mailing list software before
> even sending the mails to list subscribers.
>
> That is not entirely trivial, however. For archives it should be
> doable with a moderate effort; I may give it a go at some point.
>
> --
> Tapani Tarvainen
>
> On Thu, Feb 02, 2017 at 05:29:03PM +0000, James Gannon (
> [log in to unmask]) wrote:
>
> > Proofpoint email links are actually an antivirus scanning/antiphising
> setup, so while I agree its not great and readable they are pretty safe.
> >
> > -James
> >
> > From: NCSG-Discuss <[log in to unmask]<mailto:
> [log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Ayden Férdeline <
> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> > Reply-To: Ayden Férdeline <[log in to unmask]<mailto:ic
> [log in to unmask]>>
> > Date: Thursday 2 February 2017 at 13:43
> > To: "[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>"
> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> > Subject: External links & archives
> >
> > I really dislike this masking of hyperlinks when we receive an email
> from ICANN staff now. When I read email archives, I can't see the real URL
> to ascertain at a glance what I am really clicking on, and must trust it
> will take me to the ICANN website. I rarely click on every hyperlink in an
> email, as I can see from the URL whether it is an announcement, a PDF,
> taking me to the wiki, or somewhere else. Now I am often left to click all
> the links to try to find the relevant material. This is a but a small
> inconvenience, and not my biggest concern. What I worry about is how we
> archive these links. In five or ten years time, will "
> urldefense.proofpoint.com" plus the string of 200 or so random characters
> still redirect to the linked content? We don't need these third party
> redirects, it does not make us any safer, and it feels very much us vs.
> them. Is it possible that we can get some meaningful assurances from ICANN
> staff that these masked links will redirect to the correct URLs in
> perpetuity? Thanks
> >
> > Ayden Férdeline
> > linkedin.com/in/ferdeline<http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline>
> >
> >
>



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