Hi Tapani, Why not to stick with the original page "long" URLs but use the hyperlinks over a text to avoid using 3rd party shorten URLs? On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 8:41 PM, Tapani Tarvainen <[log in to unmask] > wrote: > Yes, clicking them is indeed reasonably safe. > > But they are not unproblematic: besides issues already mentioned, they > mean proofpoint can see whenever they're clicked and can collect > potentially sensitive information about people. (I don't know if they > actually do.) > > But the archive problem Ayden brought up is perhaps most critical. > Those links will rather obviously break when Proofpoint dies, one > way or another, and there's little ICANN can do about it. > > A technical solution should be possible: unmunge the links in archives. > Even better if it could be done by the mailing list software before > even sending the mails to list subscribers. > > That is not entirely trivial, however. For archives it should be > doable with a moderate effort; I may give it a go at some point. > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > > On Thu, Feb 02, 2017 at 05:29:03PM +0000, James Gannon ( > [log in to unmask]) wrote: > > > Proofpoint email links are actually an antivirus scanning/antiphising > setup, so while I agree its not great and readable they are pretty safe. > > > > -James > > > > From: NCSG-Discuss <[log in to unmask]<mailto: > [log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Ayden Férdeline < > [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > > Reply-To: Ayden Férdeline <[log in to unmask]<mailto:ic > [log in to unmask]>> > > Date: Thursday 2 February 2017 at 13:43 > > To: "[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>" > <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > > Subject: External links & archives > > > > I really dislike this masking of hyperlinks when we receive an email > from ICANN staff now. When I read email archives, I can't see the real URL > to ascertain at a glance what I am really clicking on, and must trust it > will take me to the ICANN website. I rarely click on every hyperlink in an > email, as I can see from the URL whether it is an announcement, a PDF, > taking me to the wiki, or somewhere else. Now I am often left to click all > the links to try to find the relevant material. This is a but a small > inconvenience, and not my biggest concern. What I worry about is how we > archive these links. In five or ten years time, will " > urldefense.proofpoint.com" plus the string of 200 or so random characters > still redirect to the linked content? We don't need these third party > redirects, it does not make us any safer, and it feels very much us vs. > them. Is it possible that we can get some meaningful assurances from ICANN > staff that these masked links will redirect to the correct URLs in > perpetuity? Thanks > > > > Ayden Férdeline > > linkedin.com/in/ferdeline<http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline> > > > > > --