Hi James, That was not any kind of official position, but something I wrote offlist when Monika asked about candidates and she then accidentally copied it to the list. I wrote it in a hurry on the road, without time to check my emails or notes and misremembered, apologies for that, but I was going to (and indeed still am going to) check and double-check before officially giving the volunteers' names to the EC. Tapani On Feb 19 20:30, James Gannon ([log in to unmask]) wrote: > https://lists.ncsg.is/pipermail/ncsg-ec/2017-February/000041.html > > > "'As of now the only candidate we have besides Avri and Martin is Carlos > Gutierrez. (I just realized he only wrote to me, not to the list.) > > Tatiana also told me when I asked that she might be available if Avri > pulls out for some reason but not otherwise, and she did not reply to > my call on the list.’" > > > Shared without comment. > > > > > On 19/02/2017, 20:26, "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" <[log in to unmask] on behalf of [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > >Dear Tatiana, all, > > > >Volunteering offlist to me was indeed just fine. I'd intended to wait > >until the deadline I gave was over (Wednesday) and then send the list > >of candidates to the EC. Now that the cat is out of the bag anyway, > >however, I'll note who's volunteered so far, in order to make sure I > >haven't missed anyone and to let others who may be consireding it a > >chance to jump in: > > > >Avri Doria > >Martin Silva Valent > >Carlos Gutierrez > >Tatiana Tropina > > > >If you have volunteered but are not on that list I've missed you: > >please let me know ASAP. And if you aren't, there's still time. > >Please try to make it by noon UTC Wednesday. > > > >Also, as others have noted this is not an election but an appointment > >by the EC, and I did not intend to ask for expressions of support on > >the list. Nonetheless I don't see the discussion on the list as > >harmful either -- it may even provide useful extra information for the > >EC to consider when making its decision. We won't be counting mere > >expressions of support though, that would obviously be unfair to those > >who volunteered offlist. > > > >Tapani > > > > > >On Feb 19 16:40, Tatiana Tropina ([log in to unmask]) wrote: > > > >> Dear all, > >> I am the one 4 candidates who applied by sending an email directly to > >> Tapani, as his email suggested to let *him* know as soon as possible so I > >> thought volunteering off-list is fine. I also wanted to avoid long threads > >> of plus 1s, as it usually happens. Sorry for any confusion - I answered to > >> Tapani directly that I can volunteer right after he sent the initial email > >> to the list, and I couldn't foresee how this would develop. > >> Warm regards > >> Tatiana Tropina > >> > >> On 19 February 2017 at 16:35, avri <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > Not at all your fault. I think some were sent to Tapani directly as his > >> > original note suggested. It was probably me who first erred by sending it > >> > to the list - though in fairness to me, he had suggested in conversation > >> > that this is what I should do. > >> > > >> > Avri > >> > > >> > Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device > >> > > >> > -------- Original message -------- > >> > From: Nadira Alaraj <[log in to unmask]> > >> > Date: 2/19/17 15:14 (GMT+00:00) > >> > To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]> > >> > Cc: [log in to unmask] > >> > Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Call for volunteers: alternate councillor > >> > > >> > Thanks Avri, for bringing my attention to the 4 candidates, having >20 > >> > emails and +1 emails, sure made me skip some emails. > >> > I apologize for the candidates, whom I missed their emails. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 5:04 PM, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> I very much appreciate the support I have gotten. and hope I will be > >> >> chosen for more council service. > >> >> > >> >> However, I would like to point out that there are currently 4 candidates > >> >> as far as I know and the call is still open for several more days. > >> >> > >> >> As far as process, we sort of do have one, the NCSG EC, once all > >> >> candidates are in at the end of the week's call. (I think Tapani gave a > >> >> week) decides what to do. They have the full range of freedom given by the > >> >> GNSO operating procedures. > >> >> > >> >> While we could define more detailed processes, I think given the variety > >> >> of possible exigent circumstances, it is best to leave this open and up to > >> >> the elected NCSG EC. > >> >> > >> >> Avri > >> >> > >> >> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device > >> >> > >> >> -------- Original message -------- > >> >> From: Nadira Alaraj <[log in to unmask]> > >> >> Date: 2/19/17 14:29 (GMT+00:00) > >> >> To: [log in to unmask] > >> >> Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Call for volunteers: alternate councillor > >> >> > >> >> Thanks Tapani, > >> >> I would like to share my observation about email threads, that gets too > >> >> much responses when it comes to leadership positions. Not only in the NCUC, > >> >> but in many ICANN working groups. I think it is due to lack of any > >> >> procedures for such cases. > >> >> > >> >> I take this opportunity, to call upon the task-force whom they are > >> >> working on NCUC procedures, to consider this case. > >> >> > >> >> As for my opinion on the alternate councillor and since it is a short > >> >> period, it could be divided among Avri and Martin. So one will resume > >> >> during the period of ICANN 58 and soon to be switched to another for ICANN > >> >> 59. > >> >> > >> >> I think this will be a compromise solution since there are not written > >> >> rules. > >> >> > >> >> Best wishes, > >> >> Nadira ALARAJ > >> >> > >> >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Tapani Tarvainen < > >> >> [log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> Dear all, > >> >>> > >> >>> As Amr Elsadr resigned from the council upon joining the staff, the > >> >>> NCSG Executive Committee needs to appoint a temporary alternate to > >> >>> replace him. > >> >>> > >> >>> If you are interested in the job, please let me know as soon as > >> >>> possible, but no later than Wednesday February 22 (one week from now). > >> >>> The appointment is on the agenda of EC meeting on February 24, and we'd > >> >>> want to have list of names at least two days in advance so we'll have > >> >>> time to review them. > >> >>> > >> >>> Please explain why you think you'd be good for the task and confirm > >> >>> you could commit to the time it takes. Jumping in to the council > >> >>> mid-term is not easy, so experience is one key criteria for the EC in > >> >>> considering the appointment. > >> >>> > >> >>> The term extends until ICANN60 in the fall in Abu Dhabi, although the > >> >>> appointment can be made for a shorter time if the EC so chooses. > >> >>> If this makes a difference for you, for example if you'd only be able > >> >>> to do shorter time, or if you would not be interested in a shorter > >> >>> appointment, let us know that, too. > >> >>> > >> >>> Thank you, > >> >>> > >> >>> -- > >> >>> Tapani Tarvainen