EFF already started on a letter FYI, it's here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IM8q7dLaavwOntQZpEzMtyZxLQjQbdDuLH0FE26fqQU/edit Not sure if this will be merged with the ICA letter yet, but Phil is reviewing it. On 19/2/17 6:22 am, Stephanie Perrin wrote: > > Certainly looks interesting to me. I think we should weigh in, and > this may be a good way. > > Stephanie Perrin > > > On 2017-02-19 09:13, Ayden FĂ©rdeline wrote: >> Might this letter being drafted by the Internet Commerce Association >> be something that the NCSG would like to sign on in support of? >> >> Ayden FĂ©rdeline >> linkedin.com/in/ferdeline <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline> >> >> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: Re: [Internet Policy] Why is ISOC's PIR promoting a private >>> global copyright censorship court for domains? >>> Local Time: 17 February 2017 11:25 AM >>> UTC Time: 17 February 2017 11:25 >>> From: [log in to unmask] >>> To: Graham Cobb <[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask] >>> <[log in to unmask]> >>> >>> Hello to members of ISOC's Internet Policy discussion group. >>> >>> I am Counsel to the Internet Commerce Association (ICA). Last week I >>> posted a blog concerning the HDI proposal at >>> http://www.internetcommerce.org/dna-unveils-hdi-with-copyright-udrp/ >>> . ICA subsequently posted a statement of concern regarding the >>> Copyright ADRP which can be found at >>> http://www.internetcommerce.org/ica-deeply-concerned-with-proposal-to-enable-domain-transfers-based-upon-copyright-claims/ >>> . >>> >>> This past week I have been attending the Intersessional meeting of >>> ICANN's Non-Contracted Party House (NCPH) in Reykjavik, Iceland in >>> my capacity as one of the GNSO Councilors representing the Business >>> Constituency (BC - and noting that the BC has not taken any position >>> on any component of HDI and that this communication is being >>> undertaken in my ICA role and not on behalf of the BC). During the >>> meeting I engaged in conversations with many other members of the >>> NCPH who share substantial concerns regarding the Copyright ADRP and >>> its imminent implementation by PIR. >>> >>> Those concerned NCPH delegates have asked me to draft a letter that >>> can be signed by individuals and organizations requesting that PIR >>> and ISOC undertake an open and transparent dialogue with the broad >>> Internet community before making any final decision on whether and >>> in what form to implement the Copyright ADRP. We share the common >>> belief that PIR, as the registry operator affiliated with ISOC, has >>> a particular responsibility to engage in such a dialogue before >>> granting ISOC's implicit blessing to an unprecedented dispute >>> resolution procedure concerning copyright disputes. That is >>> particularly true given that the DNA developed the HDI components >>> without undertaking the broad outreach and discussion beyond its >>> membership that it had initially indicated would be forthcoming. >>> >>> As I am uncertain of the propriety of circulating such a draft >>> communication on this list, I am requesting that individuals and >>> organizations that may have an interest in joining such a >>> communication contact me direct at [log in to unmask] . When the letter >>> is final I will share it on this mailing list, and in the interim I >>> will likely have more to say on this subject in my ICA Counsel capacity. >>> >>> Thank you for your attention. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal >>> >>> Virtualaw LLC >>> >>> 1155 F Street, NW >>> >>> Suite 1050 >>> >>> Washington, DC 20004 >>> >>> 202-559-8597/Direct >>> >>> 202-559-8750/Fax >>> >>> 202-255-6172/cell >>> >>> >>> >>> "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: InternetPolicy [[log in to unmask]] on >>> behalf of Graham Cobb [[log in to unmask]] >>> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:56 PM >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: [Internet Policy] Why is ISOC's PIR promoting a private >>> global copyright censorship court for domains? >>> >>> On 16/02/17 18:17, Livingood, Jason wrote: >>> > On 2/16/17, 12:34 PM, "InternetPolicy on behalf of Brandt Dainow" >>> <[log in to unmask] on behalf of >>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >> I am firmly convinced this is an example of "mission creep" - the >>> job of domain name management is to manage allocation of, and >>> disputes over, >>> >> ownership of domain names. It is not the job of domain name >>> management to have any say in what those domain names are used for. >>> > >>> > The alternative appears to be country-by-country mandated domain >>> name blocking >>> > (happening increasingly in Europe), which many MSH organizations have >>> in the >>> > past said risks balkanizing the Internet. >>> >>> I don't accept that that is the only alternative: in my view it is just >>> as unreasonable. >>> >>> However, even if that is the alternative, it is better for many reasons: >>> the effects are limited to the country concerned; the process is >>> governed by the laws of the people affected; blocking is often >>> ineffective; the cost of silencing a domain owner worldwide are much >>> higher. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, >>> please log into the ISOC Member Portal: >>> https://portal.isoc.org/ >>> Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. >>> >>> ----- >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/13918 - Release Date: >>> 02/09/17 >>> Internal Virus Database is out of date. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, >>> please log into the ISOC Member Portal: >>> https://portal.isoc.org/ >>> Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. >> > -- Jeremy Malcolm Senior Global Policy Analyst Electronic Frontier Foundation https://eff.org [log in to unmask] Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World :: Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2016/11/27/key_jmalcolm.txt PGP fingerprint: 75D2 4C0D 35EA EA2F 8CA8 8F79 4911 EC4A EDDF 1122