Ayden, Thank you for the changes. Especially the last one. I appreciate your efforts as author as well as the efforts of Stephanie to find a consensus point between our views. avri On 24-Mar-17 17:35, Ayden Férdeline wrote: > Avri, > > Thank you for your feedback on the public comment, which as you are > aware is still being edited. Of the 40 revisions you requested > yesterday, 37 were accepted unchallenged. And, as we speak, > I understand Stephanie is working hard to revise paragraph #21 so that > it will hopefully be something we are all somewhat comfortable with. > Anyway, thanks for reading the comment so closely and sharing your > perspective. > > > Best wishes, > > Ayden > > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 9:22 pm, avri doria <[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >> Whereas I think it is a pity that the document still contains a line >> that serves no purpose other than to stand as an insult to At-Large and >> the ALAC. The first line of 21 states: >> >> " *We are hesitant to comment on the comparison of results between ALAC >> and the NCSG, particularly because of the disparity in resources >> allocated by ICANN, and the different missions. However, we do feel that >> At-Large could deliver measurably better advice with significantly fewer >> resources."* >> >> **1. comparisons between the budget for one of the SOAC and one of the >> subcomponents of a SOAC makes no sense.** >> >> **2. in what way could this be verified. It is a boastful claim that >> cannot be verified.** >> >> **3. these are insulting words that serve no meaningful purpose.** >> >> **** >> >> **I think it would be "****inexcusable for NCSG " to send something out >> with this sentence still in it.** >> >> **** >> >> **avri ** >> >> >> On 24-Mar-17 17:13, Martin Pablo Silva Valent wrote: >> > +1 on this >> > >> > On 24 Mar 2017 19:25, "Mueller, Milton L" <[log in to unmask] >> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >> > >> > I think you’ve done a great job shepherding this statement and I >> > support it. >> > >> > It would be inexcusable for NCSG not to be able to weigh in with >> > comments on this. >> > >> > >> > >> > --MM >> > >> > >> > >> > *From:*NCSG-Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask] >> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>] *On Behalf Of *Ayden Férdeline >> > *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 7:22 PM >> > *To:* [log in to unmask] >> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> >> > *Subject:* Re: [DRAFT] NCSG Statement on the ALAC Review >> > >> > >> > >> > I didn't realise I wrote to the NCSG-Discuss list earlier. What is >> > with my emailing today? (Well a mobile device...) >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks for these comments, Stefi, and for reading the blog post. >> > For now my priority is to continue editing the Statement, revising >> > it to accommodate some very legitimate points which have been >> > made, and then coming back to the PC list to see who is >> > comfortable endorsing it. I would hope an endorsement was >> > forthcoming but I know that outcome is not a forgone conclusion, >> > and that is understandable (if disappointing). >> > >> > >> > >> > Best wishes, >> > >> > >> > >> > Ayden Férdeline >> > >> > Sent from ProtonMail Mobile >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:12 pm, Milan, Stefania >> > <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >> > >> > Dear Ayden, thanks for taking care of this. I have read and >> > enjoyed your blog post. >> > I have not read the report in question, and I feel a have very >> > little ground to move any objection--so I feel also >> > uncomfortable at supporting it unless 2/3 of the PC members >> > approve. Does it make sense? >> > Anyhow thanks for your great great work! Stefania >> > ps and good luck with fixing laptop!! >> > ________________________________________ >> > Da: NCSG-Discuss <[log in to unmask] >> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> per conto di Ayden >> > Férdeline <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> >> > Inviato: giovedì 23 marzo 2017 13.12.43 >> > A: [log in to unmask] >> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> >> > Oggetto: Re: [DRAFT] NCSG Statement on the ALAC Review >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > We need to get something out by tomorrow, as that is the >> > deadline. I am currently laptopless with my MacBook getting >> > its battery replaced today, so I'm stuck making edits through >> > Google Docs on my iPhone :/ That said, I'll be working on a >> > second draft today and refining a few of the points, as I'm >> > not happy with the document as it stands. I have published a >> > blog post on the Report itself which basically sums up where I >> > stand on the Review: >> > >> > >> http://www.internetgovernance.org/2017/03/23/re-thinking-icanns-at-large-community/ >> >> > >> <http://www.internetgovernance.org/2017/03/23/re-thinking-icanns-at-large-community/> >> >> > >> > >> > I hope this is useful. >> > >> > Best wishes, >> > >> > Ayden >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 12:08 pm, Martin Pablo Silva Valent >> > <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask] >> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]:[log in to unmask]>>> >> > wrote: >> > Ayden, any deadline or idea towards when it will, if, >> > submitted? I am travelling this week. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Martin >> > >> > On 21 Mar 2017 15:52, "Ayden Férdeline" >> > <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask] >> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]:[log in to unmask]>>> >> > wrote: >> > Greetings all, >> > >> > I have drafted up on Google >> > >> Docs<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZgdafZs4KBENsb-Kl9GO0l_Bh4gYdQd6F-ORpZPr27s/edit?usp=sharing >> >> > >> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZgdafZs4KBENsb-Kl9GO0l_Bh4gYdQd6F-ORpZPr27s/edit?usp=sharing>> >> >> > some comments on behalf of the NCSG regarding the Review of >> > the At-Large community. This is a really rough draft, and I'd >> > welcome your feedback on what arguments should be refined, >> > what I might have missed, or what we might want to remain >> > silent on. I'm not happy with it at the moment, but I figured >> > it would be better to get some words down onto paper, and we >> > can refine this together... so please take a read of the >> > proposed statement >> > >> here<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZgdafZs4KBENsb-Kl9GO0l_Bh4gYdQd6F-ORpZPr27s/edit?usp=sharing >> >> > >> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZgdafZs4KBENsb-Kl9GO0l_Bh4gYdQd6F-ORpZPr27s/edit?usp=sharing>>, >> >> > with the understanding that it's definitely a >> > work-in-progress. And please share your thoughts, either in >> > the document itself or on this mailing list! >> > >> > Comments are due in three days, so we don't have too long to >> > get this together unfortunately. You can read the draft report >> > >> here<https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/atlarge-review-draft-report-31jan17-en.pdf >> >> > >> <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/atlarge-review-draft-report-31jan17-en.pdf>> >> >> > (PDF link) if you haven't seen it already. >> > >> > A friendly note to those ALAC members who read the NCSG >> > mailing list: this statement is a work-in-progress, it has not >> > been endorsed yet by the NCSG Policy Committee, and it will >> > likely change between now and the time it is submitted (if it >> > is submitted). >> > >> > Best wishes, >> > >> > Ayden Férdeline >> > linkedin.com/in/ferdeline >> > >> <http://linkedin.com/in/ferdeline><http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline >> > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline>> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or >> > entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential >> > and/or privileged material. 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