This is so true!

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Milton L Mueller <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> The number of people interested in what ICANN does is intrinsically a small
> portion of the politically active population.
>
> The number of people interested in what ICANN does AND willing to join a
> membership organization related to icann is a small portion of the previous
> portion of the population.
>
> The number of people interested in what ICANN does AND willing to join a
> membership organization related to icann AND willing to vote or otherwise
> participate in specific processes is a small portion of previous portion of
> the population.
>
> The number of people interested in and capable of using all this effort to
> make decisions and administer policies are an even smaller bunch (and may or
> may not be drawn from the previous population).
>
> <repeat as necessary>
>
>
>
> Bottom line of this cascade:
>
> I agree with Bill, too. We need to cultivate the people we have.
>
>
>
> From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Rafik Dammak
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:20 AM
>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS] Welcoming a new NCSG member
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I totally agree with Bill,  I think for outreach we are doing well and we
> can continue on that, but I think that having more people participating in
> WGs, making public comments and drafting NCSG statements is urgent.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Rafik
>
>
>
> 2010/5/24 William Drake <[log in to unmask]>
>
> Hi
>
> I'm on the board of EURALO, a chunk of which (not me, thankfully) spent a
> great deal of time going back and forth with staff on the production and
> distribution of a single sheet fold-over brochure.  After a rather
> protracted process, a few folks have now started to drag stacks around to
> meetings like EuroDIG, and perhaps this will ultimately lead to some new ALS
> applications, but one does have to wonder whether this kind of old school
> outreach was worth the effort that went into it relative to other work.  In
> the meanwhile, NCUC grew enormously over the past year or so largely through
> Robin's online outreach.
>
> Our immediate problem isn't to draw in more folks, but rather to consolidate
> and more fully engage the ones we already have, in the first instance on the
> charter vote.  If we can meet the threshold and get the charter passed ASAP,
> then sure our media team http://ncdnhc.org/group/mediateam could explore a
> leaflet as part of its strategy.  But I wouldn't let a piece of paper
> distract the whole group from the pressing task at hand.
>
> Two cents,
>
> Bill
>
> On May 24, 2010, at 4:34 AM, Joly MacFie wrote:
>
>> What shocked me in the NARALO process is that - given a long drawn
>> out, and presumably costly at their end, design process - when asked
>> how many they would print ICANN staff responded as few as possible,
>> suggesting 100 or so would suffice. I would have thought a run of 5000
>> or so would be in order, just to punt some out to every ALS etc. to
>> give out at meetings, but they are just thinking Brussels.
>>
>> Similarly, I would think in our case. I like the idea of doing
>> something like http://kickstarter.com where everyone pledges until a
>> sufficient amount is reached - altho I'm not fond of kickstarter's
>> Amazon payment scheme. If a 501c3 was needed as a fiscal sponsor that
>> US tax-deductible donations could be be made to I'd think ISOC-NY
>> would be willing.
>>
>> 1-800-postcards charges ~ $250 for 500 brochures, there would be some
>> additional shipping.
>> http://www.1800postcards.com/order/products/brochures.aspx?size=8.5x11
>>
>> The least that could be done is to design something that can posted as
>> a pdf and then printed at will.
>>
>> joly
>>
>> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We canot assume any help at all from ICANN.
>>>
>>> But we can ask if that is what we want to do. Then again, once the
>>> charter vote is complete and we know where we are going, that is one of the
>>> reasons I finally want to get on track with the fundraising plans I have put
>>> off because of the amount of work involved in the charter process.  While it
>>> is all well and good to look to ICANn for help, we need need to find a way
>>> to fund our own needs, including pamphlets and getting members from
>>> developing regions to the meeting so they can participate fully in the ICANN
>>> process.
>>>
>>> a.
>>>
>>> On 23 May 2010, at 18:19, Joly MacFie wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's a good idea.
>>>>
>>>> The NARALO brochure, copy and overall design having been decided by
>>>> members, is being designed and printed by ICANN. Can we assume that
>>>> they would extend the same facility to NCSG?
>>>>
>>>> We also used the ICANN Social Text wiki to do the design
>>>> collaboration. https://st.icann.org/
>>>>
>>>> j
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Fouad Bajwa <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> First welcoming on board  AAMC and Amber to the constituency in ICANN
>>>>> with a Soul ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>> Secondly, this new addition just triggered the idea that it would be
>>>>> viable to explore and contribute a NCSG brochure like a bookmark on
>>>>> the lines of the ones we received around the ICANN meeting in Nairobi
>>>>> for example, from NOMCOM, ALAC and separate for their regional
>>>>> organizations, about ICANN, about ccNSO etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> This small bookmarker like brochure with NCSG can share what it is,
>>>>> its objectives and how to join the NCSG and its membership level and a
>>>>> link to the website/email contact. This would be very useful in
>>>>> raising awareness amongst ICANN participants especially the new ones
>>>>> that add up to the ICANN community each year.
>>>>>
>>>>> Its a start you know :o)
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Best
>>>>> Fouad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am happy to announce that the Association of American Medical
>>>>>> Colleges has been accepted by the NCSG Executive Committee as an
>>>>>> organizational member of the NCSG.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From their website http://www.aamc.org:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The AAMC represents all 132 accredited U.S. and 17 accredited Canadian
>>>>>> medical schools; approximately 400 major teaching hospitals and health
>>>>>> systems, including 68 Department of Veterans Affairs medical centers; and
>>>>>> nearly 90 academic and scientific societies. Through these institutions and
>>>>>> organizations, the AAMC represents 125,000 faculty members, 75,000 medical
>>>>>> students, and 106,000 resident physicians.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amber Sterling will be their primary representative to the NCSG and
>>>>>> has been added to this discussion list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Welcome AAMC, Welcome Amber.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> Joly MacFie  218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast
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>>>>  Secretary - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Joly MacFie  218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast
>> WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com
>> http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com
>>  Secretary - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org
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