Thanks Bill,
+1 on your first proposal!
Alan
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:13 AM, William Drake <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi
> It seems we're talking about several different rationales/models for the
> possible creation of an NCUC listserv, each of which has different
> implications.
> One, which appeals to me, would be a list for discussing any purely internal
> process stuff. So discussions (and the occasional disagreements) about how
> the constituency organizes its affairs, e.g. elections, filling slots on SG
> bodies or GNSO working groups, and so on, as well as any announcements from
> the constituency leadership, would go to this list. Discussions of
> substantive issues related to GNSO or Internet governance more generally
> would remain on the SG list, since these really should be of interest to
> both constituencies' members.
> A second, which Avri and Joly are suggesting, would be a list solely for
> announcements and administrative messages from the constituency leadership.
> Personally, I'm not sure I see how much this would help, since a) it's not
> obvious that there's going to be a need for so many such one-way messages to
> justify a separate list, and b) this would not address the sort of
> complaints made by Alain about messages pertaining to NCUC laundry, dirty or
> otherwise.
> A third, which if I understand her correctly Judy Branzelle is suggesting,
> would be a list that hosts the bulk of discussions both substantive and
> process, on the grounds that there's just too much mail to read. This I
> have even more difficulty with than the second. While I can understand NPOC
> members not wanting to read NCUC internal process debates (any more than
> NCUC members want to read NPOC internal process debates), now that the
> chartering and reorganization are done, most of our traffic should normally
> be on substantive issues, as it was before we had to deal with the
> institutional tumult. I would think that anyone who's made the commitment to
> get involved in GNSO/ICANN, or at least to keep an eye on developments
> therein even if they can't consistently participate, should want to be
> connected to the substantive discussions. Moving these into an NCUC-only
> space would impede collective awareness of the issues and make coordination
> on them more difficult. A rump SG list that doesn't host these probably
> would have relatively little traffic or value.
> Just my view. What do others think?
> Bill
> On Nov 22, 2011, at 12:26 AM, Joly MacFie wrote:
>
> I'd say yes to both.
>
> j
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The other possibility, it the NCSG leadership is willing to countenance
>> another list, which in the past they weren't, they could establish a NCSG
>> announce list that our leaders could us for informational and transparency
>> purposes.
>>
>> Or maybe there could be both a NCSG and a NCUC announce-only list for our
>> leaders to use for announcements and transparency when they are acting in
>> the best interests of the membership of the respective organizations.
>>
>> avri
>>
>> On 17 Nov 2011, at 15:00, Joly MacFie wrote:
>>
>> > My 2c.
>> >
>> > I believe there should at least be a NCUC-MEMBERS (or suitable
>> > equivalent) list, announce-only, for announcements and admin - then people
>> > who might otherwise be ignoring the general to-and-fro of NCSG-discuss can
>> > set their filters so as to get important notices.
>> >
>> > j
>> >
>> >
>> >
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