Robin is right.
--c.a.
sent from a dumbphone
On 12/03/2012, at 17:50, Robin Gross <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I have to disagree, Adam. We need the community to engage in this issue very much. This proposal is a not a final text, but a starting point to try to reach a compromise. If it is "too late" for the community to engage, it is because the RC/IOC came so late in the game. I don't believe the bottom-up policy development process should be shoved aside because of AC/IOC's late request.
>
> Robin
>
>
> On Mar 12, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Adam Peake wrote:
>
>> Alain, hi.
>>
>> Suggest it's a little late to be recommending such a fundamental
>> change to the applicant proces. Not going to fly. So let's not waste
>> our time on it.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> Adam Peake
>> GLOCOM Tokyo
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Alain Berranger
>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> Dear NCSG Colleagues,
>>>
>>> FYI
>>>
>>> Alain
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Jean-Louis Ecochard <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Date: Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:42 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [npoc-voice] NPOC Proposal for IOC-RC protection
>>> To: Alain Berranger <[log in to unmask]>, "[log in to unmask]"
>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alain,
>>>
>>> Merci de votre proposition.
>>>
>>> One of the prime concern is the conversion of a known NGO domain name into a
>>> gTLD.
>>> This is because a domain name is an NGO brand on the internet.
>>> We also know that words like relief, cancer, heart, peace, nature, etc.
>>> cannot receive trademark protection yet they represent essential internet
>>> brands of the NGOs they represent.
>>> I believe ANY NGO with a strong internet brand presence would find it
>>> disastrous to see their domain name converted into a gTLD (e.g. In our case
>>> of nature.org seeing a .nature gTLD).
>>>
>>> Henceforth I recommend we propose protection of any .org or .org.country
>>> domain name in active use by "Any organization operating globally in the
>>> public interest and enjoying International Legal Personality in the country
>>> where its Headquarters are located, and its members." as of January 1 2012.
>>> This means that ICANN would prohibit the creation of a gTLD that is the same
>>> as a domain name of an NGO in use 1/1/12 and active.
>>>
>>> This ensures protection of the capital invested by NGOs on their brand
>>> presence without making it too complicated for ICANN to administer (I.e.
>>> Check for .org existence, check if own by NGO).
>>>
>>> I welcome thoughts and discussions on this extension of Alain's suggestion.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> JL
>>>
>>> be green – read on the screen
>>> --
>>> Jean-Louis Écochard
>>> Vice President and Chief Information Officer
>>>
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>>>
>>> "An individual without information can't take responsibility. An individual
>>> with information can't help but take responsibility."
>>> - Jan Carlzon, former President and CEO of the Scandinavian Airlines Group
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Alain Berranger
>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:06:11 -0400
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>> Subject: [npoc-voice] NPOC Proposal for IOC-RC protection
>>>
>>> Dear NPOC members:
>>>
>>> Greetings from San José. As Acting Vice Chair, I would like to consult you
>>> on an important issue:
>>>
>>> Context: Given the tension here on the IOC and Red Cross exemption (some of
>>> us call it protection) and the Drafting Committee Chair report to GNSO this
>>> morning - we find it wise, for the benefit of our current and future NPOC
>>> members, as well as the ICANN Community at large, that NPOC promotes and
>>> supports a) the proposal from the WG and b), in a broader manner, the
>>> generic extension of this protection based on avoiding the setting of a
>>> precedent, and based on objective and independantly verifiable criteria to
>>> define who or who does not qualify:
>>>
>>> Proposition:
>>> Would receive new gTLD protection: "Any organization operating globally in
>>> the public interest and enjoying International Legal Personality in the
>>> country where its Headquarters are located, and its members."
>>>
>>> Thank you for your attention to this important matter. Please respond by
>>> Tuesday 13 March 17:00 San José time.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Alain Berranger
>>> --
>>> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
>>> Member, Board of Directors, CECI,
>>> http://www.ceci.ca<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/>
>>> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business,
>>> www.schulich.yorku.ca<http://www.schulich.yorku.ca>
>>> Trustee, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation,
>>> www.gkpfoundation.org<http://www.gkpfoundation.org>
>>> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation,
>>> www.chasquinet.org<http://www.chasquinet.org>
>>> interim Membership Committee Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
>>> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824
>>> Skype: alain.berranger
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
>>> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca
>>> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca
>>> Trustee, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org
>>> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org
>>> interim Membership Committee Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
>>> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824
>>> Skype: alain.berranger
>>>
>>
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