Does this mean *all* search engines with links will be shut down
anytime, including 'Big G'?

On 11/27/10, Alex Gakuru <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Why complained earlier on expectations that cash strapped ccTLDs especially
> in Africa/developing cannot afford parallel servers, databases and time
> costs to enforce third parties IP/copyrights/trademark etc interests. It
> somehow 'feels' safer NOT to register a .com now?
>
> On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Robin Gross <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> The latest info that I've seen is that Verisign assigned new DNS servers
>> at the Registry level, and then locked the domain so that even the
>> Registrar
>> can't update it.  So now it looks like it may have been VeriSign who
>> "seized" them.  No word on ICANN's role in this situation, if any.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 26, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Marc Perkel wrote:
>>
>>  So was it ICANN that actually did the seizing?
>>
>> On 11/26/2010 7:25 PM, Michael Haffely wrote:
>>
>> The concerning part about the report from today is that the domain owner
>> never received any complaint or due process before the domains were
>> seized.
>> It appears that no Cease and Desist, warrant, suit, or other criminal
>> complaint was brought up before the domain was taken.  What if (for an
>> example) this behavior is taken up by the Patent and Copyright "trolls".
>> What happens to an individual/nonprofit/organization when they have their
>> domain yanked out from under them?
>>
>> If ICANN is to seize domains from their rightful owners by demand of a
>> law
>> enforcement agency we need to have a clear, *rapid* appeals process to
>> prevent abuse by corporations, law enforcement agencies, and governments.
>>
>>
>> -Mike H.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Andrew A. Adams <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> Very similar moves are happening in the UK, with Nominet (UK non-profit
>>> with
>>> the .uk (and .gb) country-code delegation) engaging with the UK's SOCA
>>> (Serious and Organised Crime Agency *) to remove 1200 "sites engaged in
>>> selling counterfeit goods" recently and now doing a more explicit deal
>>> with
>>> the police to take down the DNS registration for sites "alleged to be
>>> involved in criminal activity".
>>>
>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/25/nominet_crime/
>>>
>>> (*) The SOCA is a rather dodgy organisation, IMHO. When it was set up
>>> the
>>> then home secrewtary made a big thing of it not being actually police
>>> and
>>> therefore not bound by the requirements that the police have to respect
>>> the
>>> human rights of citizens. THat's a recipe for a secret police operating
>>> extra-judicially and here we see exactly that kind of approach.
>>>
>>> I am very worried by these kinds of moves. Zittrain's "The Future of the
>>> Internet" and Mueller's "Networks and States" concerns about censorship
>>> becoming the norm not the exception online seem to be coming true. While
>>> I'm
>>> not in favour of criminals having free reign, the trouble is that all
>>> the
>>> hard won freedoms such as due process, balance of rights, etc. seem to
>>> be
>>> being thrown out in the digital domain.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Professor Andrew A Adams                      [log in to unmask]
>>> Professor at Graduate School of Business Administration,  and
>>> Deputy Director of the Centre for Business Information Ethics
>>> Meiji University, Tokyo, Japan       http://www.a-cubed.info/
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
> --
> regards,
>
> Alex Gakuru
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