As for me, I couldn't imagine the world without gender and cultural
(geographic) diversities : this is the multistakerholderism !
Cheers !
-Olevie-
2013/1/31, David Cake <[log in to unmask]>:
> I was just clarifying the process of this particular review team selection
> round - gender diversity was not an issue here, because no matter what the
> outcome of the process overall, within NCSG our two applicants were both
> women, and so NCSG was always going to satisfy the gender diversity
> requirement of the council process.
>
> Personally, I think gender diversity quotas do have a valid role to play in
> an institutional context. Luckily NCSGs wealth of talent is already pretty
> gender diverse, so gender diversity requirements are generally positive for
> us - and personally, I'm very pleased to be working alongside so many
> exceptional women in the NCSG leadership team. But if you doubt that
> systemic gender bias can be an issue, you don't need to look that far beyond
> NCSG to find it, especially in the tech industry generally.
>
> I'm in favour of ICANN trying to encourage gender and geographical (and
> other forms) of diversity.
>
> Cheers
>
> David
>
>
>
> On 31/01/2013, at 8:23 AM, Carl Smith <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks David,
>>
>> I have no problem with the geographic point, but If our best choice is a
>> woman then what is the problem? To me, the one of whom we have the
>> greatest confidence is who will serve our joint interests best. I look to
>> the minds and hearts of those I support. There are still bigots in the
>> world and surely that will continue to need addressing. Though often
>> hidden from view. If the females of the world are to be our leaders
>> because they have the right stuff, we are better for that. Are men afraid
>> of loosing their machismo?
>>
>> Sorry for the rant, but I see this gender thing as demeaning to those who
>> have worked to get to the position which they have rightfully earned.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> Lou
>>
>> On 1/30/2013 12:37 PM, David Cake wrote:
>>> FWIW, only one GNSO endorsed candidate was required to meet gender
>>> diversity requirements, and both applicants from NCSG were women, so NCSG
>>> was inevitably going to meet the gender diversity requirements for the
>>> council, and so gender diversity was not at issue for this selection. One
>>> applicant from the Registries was a woman, but they did not choose to
>>> advance them as a candidate for endorsements.
>>>
>>> The diversity requirement that is relevant to the council endorsement
>>> decision was geographical diversity - we have ended up with four GNSO
>>> endorsed candidates from North America. There was an option for the
>>> council to endorse two extra candidates to satisfy geographical diversity
>>> requirements, one each from NCSG (Marie-Laure) and CSG, but the
>>> contracted parties did not vote for it.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> David
>>>
>>> On 30/01/2013, at 8:38 AM, Carl Smith <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Bill,
>>>>
>>>> Is this a solution looking for a problem or is there a problem of which
>>>> I am unaware. Seems to me, we have tried to get the representation with
>>>> confidence in mind. I know we talked about diversity with agreement.
>>>> But if our best representation is not of the right sex......? I for one
>>>> just want our consensus to be aggressively pursued by whom ever we feel
>>>> most confident. I never got the impression any of us was a bigot. We
>>>> have a liberty minded group, I believe.
>>>>
>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>
>>>> Lou
>>>>
>>>> On 1/29/2013 9:51 AM, William Drake wrote:
>>>>> Hi Alain
>>>>>
>>>>> The process agreed agreed June 2010
>>>>> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/other/aoc-reviews is that
>>>>>
>>>>> "If the list does not meet the above mentioned diversity objectives,
>>>>> the Council as a whole may choose to endorse up to two additional
>>>>> candidates from the applicant pool who would help to give the list of
>>>>> GNSO nominees the desired balance. In this case, the Council would hold
>>>>> a vote during its teleconference, with sixty percent support of both
>>>>> houses represented in the Council being required for endorsement. If no
>>>>> candidate obtains that level of support, the list of endorsements
>>>>> obtained via the bottom-up process of stakeholder group nominations
>>>>> will be deemed final and forwarded to ICANN."
>>>>>
>>>>> So the additional nominees would be of the GNSO generally, not of the
>>>>> houses or SGs. The CPH stance was thus technically fine, just
>>>>> ill-considered.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 28, 2013, at 10:34 PM, Alain Berranger
>>>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Robin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did not know it was an option for contracting parties to block
>>>>>> non-contracted parties additional candidates. Is that the right
>>>>>> interpretation? Did they also blocked additional candidates that
>>>>>> would have added gender diversity?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alain
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, January 28, 2013, Robin Gross wrote:
>>>>>> I am told that the contracting parties blocked all additional
>>>>>> candidates that would have added some geo diversity to the group.
>>>>>> That part is disappointing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: "Jonathan Robinson" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> Date: January 27, 2013 12:49:41 PM PST
>>>>>>> To: "Steve Crocker" <[log in to unmask]>, <[log in to unmask]>,
>>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> Cc: <[log in to unmask]>, <[log in to unmask]>,
>>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]>, "tony holmes" <[log in to unmask]>,
>>>>>>> "William Drake" <[log in to unmask]>, <[log in to unmask]>,
>>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]>, "'KEITH DRAZEK'" <[log in to unmask]>, "Matt
>>>>>>> Serlin" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> Subject: GNSO applicants to the ATRT2 team
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Steve, Dear Heather,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please see attached letter regarding appointment of applicants
>>>>>>> arising from within the GNSO to the ATRT2 team.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank-you for giving this matter your attention.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jonathan Robinson
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chair
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ICANN GNSO Council
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> skype: jonathan.m.r
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
>>>>>> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca
>>>>>> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business,
>>>>>> www.schulich.yorku.ca
>>>>>> Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation,
>>>>>> www.gkpfoundation.org
>>>>>> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org
>>>>>> Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
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