All I can say is that we most probably can all get behind at least 95% of the program you just outlined, Milton. 

However some objectives may be for a longer term effort, or more challenging, than others. The question then is how to prioritize taking into account better chances for success in the present context. On which issues should we start with both a reasonable amount of chances for success and an appreciable potential to bring further success in any number of the remaining objectives?

Assuming this is all meant to be actionable, that is.

Mawaki

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On Sep 30, 2015, 3:34 PM, at 3:34 PM, "Mueller, Milton L" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>Good points, Sam! But I think we all may be missing the forest for the
>trees. 
>
>The complexity, 600-page contracts, high costs are all direct products
>of ICANN's policies and regulations. And these requirements and
>complexities in turn are not so much ICANN's fault but are produced by
>developed-world politics and policy priorities - mostly regarding
>trademark protection, law enforcement surveillance, and claims by
>governments that they need to "protect" consumers. Just try to imagine
>the administrative, legal and financial burdens of navigating a TLD
>application in ICANN's process, when so many arcane policies must be
>built into your registration process, so many last-minute politics are
>injected into the process by the GAC and the US congress. New TLD
>applicants were strung along for something like 4 YEARS, and all along
>the way the policies and applicant guidebook were changing in complex
>ways.  No small-scale, small market domain name registry could survive
>that crap. If these kinds of entry barriers had been thrown up in 1995
>or 96, none of the ccTLDs that have gotten a foothold in their local
>markets would ever have made it. Heck, Verisign would never have made
>it. 
>
>Many people seem to be reacting to this by proposing to pile on
>additional burdens, policies and regulations that will allegedly "help"
>the developing world. While well-intentioned, these ideas simply
>compound the underlying problem. For example, instead of waiving the
>ridiculous $185,000 application fee, people started proposing
>additional taxes and costs to subsidize applications. Which creates a
>new set of distortions and games.
>
>The only beneficiaries of such an approach will be a tiny number of
>officially designated "developing world representatives" who have
>connections within and know how to work the ICANN process. 
>
>I think the ideal objective for developing-world applicants for new
>TLDs would be for them to be able to respond to real demand (not fake
>demand created by an ICANN subsidy) with service proposals subject to
>extremely lightweight policies and application processes. Let the local
>governments regulate any abuses and problems, not ICANN. ICANN should
>facilitate market entry not block it. A very large portion of its
>policies are in fact designed to prevent entry not facilitate it. There
>could be problems of gaming caused by asymmetric policies, I admit, but
>policies could be designed to minimize it.
>
>The idea that you can insulate developing world start-ups from foreign
>capital because this is some kind of "colonialism" is also crazy and
>misguided. Reducing entry barriers radically will reduce dependency on
>established market players, but the fact remains that a lot of the
>capital and expertise is centered in the developed economies and
>cutting start-ups off from that is not going to help. Although ratios
>are gradually changing, a very large portion of Chinese, Indian, MENA
>and African computer scientists and business people will be educated in
>the U.S. or Europe. No underdeveloped world economy has developed
>without foreign direct investment, ever. Look at where China was before
>they opened up in 1978-9.  Look at where Brazil was before it stopped
>its autarky policies in the 1980s.  
>
>People who want to open up the market to new, developing economies need
>to insist on the following things:
>- Incremental cost based application fees. I mean something like $25,
>not $250,000. 
> - Simplification and elimination of most policy requirements 
>- expedited handling of their applications by a set deadline (we will
>say "yes" or "no" in a fixed, reasonable time frame like 4 months)
>- elimination of arbitrary demands from governments for ex ante forms
>of regulation (e.g., reserved names, PICs, etc.)
>
>As long as ICANN constitutes an enormous entry barrier the disparity
>between the existing industry and start ups will get worse. 
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Part of the power and knowledge imbalance between the new-gTLD
>> "incumbent crowd", sitting like vultures (or hawks) on the sidelines
>and the
>> "newbie crews" in Latin American, Asia and Africa will require more
>than just
>> a re-balancing of access to resources to get into the game. It will
>also require
>> greater knowledge and capacity to deal with that "incumbent crowd"
>when it
>> shows up with offers to manage the submission process and registry
>> services. That New York City willingly signed on to a 600 page
>contract with
>> minimal stakeholder consultation, a contract that brought on a
>multitude of
>> problems, should be a warning here. There needs to be a focused
>outreach
>> effort to address questions and issues, so that applicants operate
>from a
>> position of strength above and beyond just financial support.
>> 
>> Sam Lanfranco
>> 
>> On 29/09/2015 12:31 AM, Avri Doria wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I really like the question about remediation for the developmental
>> > imbalance before moving on with new rounds for the  incumbent
>crowd.
>> >
>> > avri
>> >
>> >
>> > On 28-Sep-15 18:58, Marilia Maciel wrote:
>> >> Hi, I would like to support the topics suggested by Niels and
>Remmy,
>> >> but I would take Remmy's point in a slightly different direction.
>> >>
>> >> Nielsen's report confirms that Latin America, Asia and Africa will
>> >> likely be the great drivers of new gTLD acceptance and use, while
>> >> most registries are still based in developed regions. There is a
>net
>> >> transference of resources taking place from the developing to the
>> >> developed world in the DNS industry. The problems that developing
>> >> regions face have been extensively explained.  What is the
>perception
>> >> of the board? In the opinion of board members, which concrete
>> >> measures could be put in place? Why not even suggestions from the
>JAS
>> >> report have been implemented yet? Would the board commit to a
>clear
>> >> plan to address the current imbalances before a new round of
>> >> applications is launched?
>> >>
>> >> My two cents.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> Marília
>> <rest deleted>
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