The point I am illustrating is that you made own personal decisions,
without consulting and on this case did not ask me if it was ok or
necessary to escalate the issue to the ombudsman or if I was agreeable to
his office or any other mediator in the first place? I learnt to speak for
and defend myself the hard way, thus would have appreciated if you made the
decision after consultations - with all concerned parties.

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:23 AM, Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Dear Alex,
>
> I copied you on the issue to the ombudsman.  And at the time, I thought I
> was defending you against accusations.
> In any case, I copied you.
>
> I notice that you did not answer my questions.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> avri
>
> On 14 Nov 2011, at 18:14, Alex Gakuru wrote:
>
> > I could also ask you if you included me on all your decisions while NCSG
> Chair? Most recently, if you at least even consulted me before forwarding a
> mailing list discussion to the Ombudsman thus creating an official
> complaint record about me at ICANN?
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:57 AM, Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Does this mean you were included in all of Konstantinos decisions?
> >
> > I must say that I have read though all of the records of the NCUC EC
> archives and see no indication of discussions.  So I wonder how this was
> done. Please, for transparency's sake, explain it.
> >
> > avri
> >
> >
> > On 14 Nov 2011, at 17:46, Alex Gakuru wrote:
> >
> > > Just for the record, as the elected NCUC-EC Africa representative
> never have I ever felt left out of collective NCUC decision making
> processes.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Milton L Mueller <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > > Really, I have to strongly second what Robin says here. Avri, I am
> sorry you were not selected this time but that is no reason to divert
> everyone's attention by inventing another process problem.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> > > > Of Robin Gross
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 5:30 PM
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] NCUC elections for Chair and EC
> > > > Importance: High
> > > >
> > > > It seems you misunderstand those emails below.  I had asked the
> > > > constituency chairs to reconfirm appointments that had been made -
> about a
> > > > month ago to you - since I was creating a new email list and needed
> to be
> > > > sure I had the proper email addresses on the list.  I was not asking
> the
> > > > constituency chairs to open-up a decision that had been made a month
> ago
> > > > and potentially kick out new appointments that had been made a month
> ago
> > > > to the NCSG.   Sorry if you thought this was a new call for new
> appointments
> > > > and an opportunity to take one of those new appointments for
> yourself.   I
> > > > don't think it is fair to criticize Konstantinos for not selecting
> you for one of
> > > > the appointments since you had more than a year to do the job
> yourself
> > > > already.
> > > >
> > > > Robin
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>