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Alain Berranger <[log in to unmask]>
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Alain Berranger <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:15:22 -0400
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Hi Dan, we both referred to a balance... I did not say at any cost... I
spoke of a spectrum... and respecting diverse opinions along that spectrum.
I respect your point of view. I think we need to find a way to minimize
cybercrime... and make it harder for certain countries to enable the hosting
of cybercriminals.

Best, Alain


On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Dan Krimm <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Just to take this point on the merits:
>
> On Fri, October 14, 2011 12:43 pm, Alain Berranger wrote:
> > Can we all agree that there is malfeasance on the Web and that it should
> > be brought down as often and as much as possible?
>
> Not necessarily.
>
> One of the enduring realities of any real-world law enforcement regime is
> that perfection is not an option.  Either you are going to impugn
> innocents or you are going to let malfeasance slip through, or some
> combination of both.  The question is one of balance (how many innocents
> will you impugn in order to catch how many malefactors?), and usually the
> answer to that in a modern democratic system is called "due process" (and
> may involve ancillary principles like "innocent until proven guilty"
> etc.).
>
> The statement above constitutes a maximalist policy at the extreme, where
> innocents will often get caught in the net, creating what might be
> considered "unintended consequences" -- or even worse, it may provide
> tools to those who hold power to abuse law enforcement privileges and
> actively harass innocents, perhaps for political purposes.  The innocents
> that will be most affected by this are the ones without power (i.e.,
> without money, or friends with money).
>
> We should be seeking to extend these principles to the Internet, not to
> undermine them there.
>
> Dan
>
>
> --
> Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the author alone and
> do not necessarily reflect any position of the author's employer.
>



-- 
Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
Member, Board of Directors, CECI,
http://www.ceci.ca<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/>
Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca
Trustee, GKP Foundation, www.globalknowledgepartnership.org
Vice Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
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Skype: alain.berranger


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