Out of curiousity: Is there any reason why the Caribbean couldn't be see as
its own region, aside from brevity?
Best,
-Michael
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On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Shane Kerr <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> Seun,
>
> While ARIN predates ICANN, when ICANN was formed ARIN was still the RIR
> for North America, South America, and sub-Saharan Africa. Certainly in
> the case of Jamaica, since the official language is English it made a
> certain amount of sense for them to have stayed with ARIN as an RIR.
>
> The Caribbean islands all have unique backgrounds, and I suspect trying
> to group them to get any kind of regional consensus is always going to
> be problematic. :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Shane
>
> At 2016-03-29 21:55:41 +0100
> Seun Ojedeji <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > That particularly amazed me Tracy. There is an ARIN meeting that will be
> > holding in Jamaica sometime in April. It was quite interesting for me to
> > learn that based on ICANN categorisation, .jm fall under the LAC zone
> even
> > though it's within the ARIN region (RIR wise). Don't know how much this
> > impacts on the work of the NCSG but I believe it does for the At-Large
> > community.
> >
> > Considering that ARIN predates ICANN, one would expect there is already
> > existing data set to work with. Nevertheless, I guess there may have been
> > some other reason that informed their decision which ofcourse is
> currently
> > be out of my reach/grasps
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Sent from my LG G4
> > Kindly excuse brevity and typos
> > On 29 Mar 2016 9:08 p.m., "Tracy F. Hackshaw" <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > See ARIN - LACNIC split in the Caribbean region.
> > >
> > > Sent from my Fire
> > >
> > >
> > > On March 29, 2016, at 3:26 PM, Ayden Férdeline <[log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Karel,
> > >
> > > While that concern was raised, my understanding is that it was not
> carried
> > > forward into the recommendations. The Working Group did not recommend
> > > moving most of the Caribbean region from the ICANN silo of Latin
> America to
> > > North America because it feared the two regions would be split on
> > > geographical and linguistic lines (I would suggest they already are…),
> > > among other reasons of “practicality”. It does, however, have
> provisions in
> > > place to allow a country's government to voluntarily request to move to
> > > another region. The procedures around how this would happen have not
> yet
> > > been developed by Staff.
> > >
> > > I welcome any comments or suggestions you might have for our statement,
> > > and I look forward to reading your additions.
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > >
> > > Ayden
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 7:59 PM, Karel Douglas <[log in to unmask]
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Good work - I read the NCUC report which caused me to immediately
> > >> read the final report of the WG.
> > >>
> > >> I'm glad that the issue of the Caribbean region was discussed as it
> is a
> > >> very topical issue.
> > >>
> > >> Carlton Samuels was on the WG and would have highlighted the concerns
> > >> that we have.
> > >>
> > >> I will certainly try to add a few comments on your document.
> > >>
> > >> regards
> > >>
> > >> Karel
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Ayden Férdeline <[log in to unmask]
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hello, team-
> > >>>
> > >>> I have drafted a response to the final report of the Geographic
> Regions
> > >>> Review Working Group. Comments are due in about 25 days time but if
> we do
> > >>> decide to reply, I hope we can submit something in advance of that
> > >>> deadline. I've shared my first draft on Google Docs here
> > >>> <
> https://links8.mixmaxusercontent.com/aMjjKHWxnLSD3SEwj/l/Dd5veWqTH5ASiyVjh?rn=IyczV3YzlGZgc2cj5mI&re=gI1RWZuIXez5idyV2c0NXasB0czV3YzlGZtc2cj5mI
> >
> > >>> and have also attached it to this email for those without access to
> that
> > >>> website.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-c2vVT2DNO73l89wfZTvKtY70rmaid8g7XBO-Vto9SM/edit
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> You can read the Working Group's final report here:
> > >>> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/geo-regions-2015-12-23-en
> > >>>
> > >>> I suspect that we will have a wide birth of opinions on this topic,
> so
> > >>> please know that I'm very much open to reviewing or rethinking
> anything
> > >>> that appears in this early draft. I am also new to writing public
> comments
> > >>> like this one so welcome any feedback you would be kind enough to
> share. I
> > >>> look forward to hearing your thoughts.
> > >>>
> > >>> Best wishes,
> > >>>
> > >>> Ayden Férdeline
> > >>>
> > >>> [image: File]
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> > >>> Ayden Ferdeline - Response - WGGR Report.pdf 36KB
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> > > Ayden Férdeline
> > > Statement of Interest
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