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Milton,



On Oct 2, 2015, 8:46 PM, at 8:46 PM, "Mueller, Milton L" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>On Sep 28, 2015 5:00 PM, "Marilia Maciel"
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> gTLD acceptance and use, while most registries are still
>> based in developed regions. There is a net transference
>> of resources taking place from the developing to the developed
>> world in the DNS industry.
>
>I still have to quibble with this “transfer of resources’ framing of
>the issue.
>
>This is truly 16th century zero-sum mercantilist thinking, that when a
>person in country A buys a good or service from a business in country B
>that resources are being drained out of the country and this is a Bad
>Thing. This implies that the object of policy should be to make
>everyone else buy your services and goods and that will mean you will
>be better off (and by implication, everyone else will be worse off).
>Zero-sum thinking.
>
>There is this thing called “trade” based on comparative advantage. You
>buy from outside the things they supply more efficiently and you sell
>the things you supply more efficiently. And you’re both better off. OK,
>you don’t have to be a free trader or a neoliberal to realize that 90%
>(at least) of the time everyone is better off if it works that way. I
>have a Japanese car. I and all Americans are a hell of a lot better off
>because Japanese and Koreans and Germans can sell cars in this country,
>it is not a “transfer of resources” it’s a trade.
>
>The problem with current TLD policy is _not_ that people in the
>developing world are buying .COMs or .WHATEVERS from North America;
>given their current set of choices that’s a trade that they deem in
>their interests. After all, they can always buy their local ccTLD. If
>they are buying new TLDs from existing suppliers (not that many are, by
>the way) it must be for a reason.
>
>The real problem is that incumbent operators in North America are
>grabbing most of this sticky market because TLD operators from the
>developing world are excluded by the massive entry barriers created by
>ICANN. It’s not transference, its entry barriers.
>
>
>
>From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>Carlos Raul Gutierrez
>Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 5:13 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] [ICANN meeting] reminder about NCSG-board
>meeting topics
>
>
>Also agree with Marilias added focus, but my own perspective is WHO in
>ICANN follows up consistently over time on those reports. Hope the will
>say the CCT AoC review...and then we would ask Why is the Review not in
>place yet!!!!!
>On Sep 28, 2015 5:00 PM, "Marilia Maciel"
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>gTLD acceptance and use, while most registries are still based in
>developed regions. There is a net transference of resources taking
>place from the developing to the developed world in the DNS industry.
>The problems that developing regions face have been extensively
>explained.  What is the perception of the board? In the opinion of
>board members, which concrete measures could be put in place? Why not
>even suggestions from the JAS report have been implemented yet? Would
>the board commit to a clear plan to address the current imbalances
>before a new round of applications is launched?
>
>My two cents.
>
>Best,
>Marília
>
>On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Remmy Nweke
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>Hi Rafik
>Can we ask the board on what the future holds on the use of the
>consumer survey conducted recently by Nielsen to improve trust of
>common Internet users or consumers especially in developing economies
>where service providers hide under poor infrastructure to rip off data
>users.
>regards
>Remmy Nweke
>
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>On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Stephanie Perrin
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>wrote:
>Yes Nora briefed the GNSO, and I asked about getting access to her
>research.  She said she would post a wiki, but they have not done any
>research outside ICANN yet, apparently.  Makes one wonder how we
>actually determine "the public interest".
>Stephanie
>
>On 2015-09-28 12:30, Robin Gross wrote:
>Can we ask the board how it is coming with its research in the "global
>public interest".  I believe it was the annual mtg last where we asked
>the board about its understanding of the global public interest, how it
>determines, on what basis, etc.  At that time, the board said it was
>just getting started on compiling some research that it would share and
>had hired Nora.  So it would be great if we could have an update or
>further conversation on this concept, how it is determined and applies,
>etc.
>
>Thanks,
>Robin
>
>
>On Sep 28, 2015, at 7:47 AM, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>
>
>
>Hi everyone,
>
>less than 3 weeks before Dublin meeting,need your input here :)
>
>Rafik
>2015-09-21 7:04 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>:
>
>Hi everyone.
>
>As described below, we should agree on 3 topics we would like to
>discuss with the board at the session in dublin meeting.
>Please propose a topic and give some description.
>
>Best,
>
>Rafik
>
>Ps please fill out this doodle poll about your attendance of dublin
>meeting http://doodle.com/5umpi4cf2r2ue2dy
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>From: "Rafik Dammak"
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>Date: Sep 14, 2015 9:00 PM
>Subject: [ICANN meeting] kick-off the preparation for ICANN meeting 53
>in Dublin
>To:
>"[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>"
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>Cc:
>
>Hi everyone,
>
>we are just few weeks away from the next ICANN meeting in Dublin and we
>have to be ready for that.
>
>First thing is to start the discussion about the topics we want to
>discuss with the board during our joint meeting (for Dublin, it will
>scheduled in Wednesday morning instead of Tuesday as usual)
>
>Please share some topics for discussion and give some description to
>explain the rationale. we will try to shorten the list up to 3 topics
>and continue the discussion about those topics and how to present them
>in order to get interaction.
>
>Finally, please fill the doodle poll  (here
>http://doodle.com/5umpi4cf2r2ue2dy)if<http://doodle.com/5umpi4cf2r2ue2dy%29if>
>you are going to attend the ICANN meeting.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Rafik
>
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