Hi all,

Many thanks for the great turnout and discussion yesterday. As the GNSO
Council agenda was pretty light, we had a useful and informative discussion
on some broader topics, which I personally found very helpful - so thanks
to everyone.

All the best, Maria

NCSG PC

12 Oct 2014



Participants:

Joy Liddicoat

Amr El Sadr

Olevie Kouami

Carolos Affonso

Wendy Seltzer

Carlos Guttierez

Niels ten Oever

Lori Schulman

Sam LanFranco

Stephanie Perrin

Maria Farrell

Avri Doria

Bill Drake

David Cake

Robin Gross

Milton Mueller

Magaly Pazello

Klaus Stoll



1                     Prep for High Interest Topic SO/AC meeting

a.       Role of Advisory Committees in ICANN policy-making

                                                               i.      Keep
the GAC role in the discussion, even though the agenda has been changed to
focus less on the GAC

                                                             ii.      Provide
input to the bylaw change public comment period on changing Board voting
threshold for rejecting GAC advice

                                                            iii.      Remind
people that GAC advice has a much shallower process than GNSO policy

                                                           iv.      Find an
opportunity to mention the accepted need for the Human Rights Advisory
Committee

b.      New gTLDs, 2nd round

                                                               i.      Evaluate
the first round before the second one begins (need clarity on where that
point is)

                                                             ii.
Developing
country support and outreach to developing countries – we can say
diplomatically ‘we told you so’ as we were not listened to on these topics
and the consequences are clear

                                                            iii.      What
are the criteria for success or failure of the round (and programme does
not equal success or failure of individual TLDs)? NCSG believes narrowly
economic criteria are far too narrow and we will push to develop evaluation
criteria that go wider, including the non-commercial and often positive
economic implications of commercial TLDs

                                                           iv.      Evaluation
should not just focus on who got names or what TLDs there are, and also
look at who did NOT apply and why not

                                                             v.      The
programme was overly concerned to avoid gaming, which happened anyway, and
not concerned with many non-commercial issues

                                                           vi.      The
role of the Independent Experts needs to be looked at sharply in the review
– they brought little useful or new to the evaluation of specific TLDs

                                                          vii.      We
should start evaluating the issues right now, i.e. the problems that have
arisen, rather than wait to the end of the process to start looking at them

                                                        viii.      We
should propose a Programme Evaluation Framework, i.e. a logic model that
looks at what the objectives of the programme were (or should have been)
and measuring it up against them.

2                     GNSO Council agenda prep

a.       Voting on resolutions on IRTP(D) and to adopt the charter of the
Cross Community Working Group are expected to be largely positive.

                                                               i.      Avri
took part in the various IRTP working groups and endorsed the work.

                                                             ii.       Bill,
Avri and David gave background of the CCWG charter process and what it
might be expected to achieve, and encouraged Council members to vote in
favour of it.

3              Maria said as she is finishing her term as a Council member,
she will shortly be stepping down as Chair of the NCSG PC and so we will
need to start a process to elect a new chair. More on that anon.