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Stephanie Perrin <[log in to unmask]>
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Stephanie Perrin <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 7 Jun 2014 12:10:06 -0400
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Thanks Bill, that would be great!  I worked all day on that stupid 
dissent, trying to make it not seem like I am throwing out the whole 
report, and I explained my objections to them all over a period of some 
days.  I also met the deadline, and I had previously warned them it was 
going to be three pages.  I cannot break confidence and forward emails, 
but I am afraid I perhaps should have anticipated the whole thing being 
thrown out, and provided options (if you don't like this, go with the 
shorter version A, or B or C.)   I suspect that objections might have 
been found to this as well, but it could have prevented the situation I 
find myself in now.

As many of you had said when I was named the only civil society/privacy 
voice in the EWG, it is really hard to balance with only one voice, 
particularly one such as me who is not working in the DNS industry, and 
who has not got the history of the battles, and even (you wont catch me 
admitting this often, so write it down) being a non-attorney dealing 
with quite a few lawyers.   I worked really really hard on this, and I 
got help from so many of you, especially Kathy and Tamir, when I asked 
questions, but it was difficult when we were operating on Chatham House 
rules or the equivalent, to supplement my meagre knowledge and skill set.

I am also afraid I am now more or less voted off the island.  I have my 
ticket for London, but I will not be surprised if I am not invited to 
speak or participate at upcoming webinars.  I am getting (sob!) very 
lonely. :-) (joke, for the benefit of those who do not know me).  
Anyway, I think we have the bones of a great conversation, and I want to 
emphasize that there are still many great things in that report.  I 
think the EWG is correct in asserting that this report pays more 
attention to privacy than previous efforts.
cheers steph
On 2014-06-07, 4:30 AM, William Drake wrote:
> Hi
>
> I would like to hear more about the conversation that resulted in 
> "they would not publish it”…?
>
> The paper (and any other inputs members devise) can of course be used 
> as a backgrounder to our privacy session, and we could ask staff 
> change the Confluence link to say Workshop Agenda and Background 
> Paper(s) so it’s widely accessible anyway.
>
> Bill
>
> On Jun 7, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Rafik Dammak <[log in to unmask] 
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Stephanie,
>>
>> thank you for all efforts and I acknowledge the difficulty to 
>> participate in the EWG where it is not easy to defend privacy 
>> unfortunately. your participation probably helped to prevent more 
>> worse outcome.
>>
>> we need to respond to the report and so volunteers to do so( we have 
>> also to respond to the Whois and local laws too!)
>> we have many things to discuss in London in this regard.
>> can you please share your dissenting report if possible?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> 2014-06-07 10:13 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin 
>> <[log in to unmask] 
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>:
>>
>>     The EWG report is out.  I wrote a dissenting report, but they
>>     would not publish it.  I will give a prize to the persons who
>>     find what I am complaining about (Tamir, Milton, and Kathy, you
>>     don't count!)
>>     Thanks to all who have helped and encouraged me during this long
>>     and lonely year.
>>     Stephanie
>>
>>
>>     -------- Original Message --------
>>
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>>
>>     Dear All,
>>
>>     I am very pleased to inform you that the EWG Final Report is now
>>     posted-  see:
>>     https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/final-report-06jun14-en.pdf.
>>
>>
>>     It will appear shortly on the ICANN homepage and will be part of
>>     a blog  on Monday.
>>
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