Magnificent.

Adam


On Oct 11, 2013, at 2:11 AM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:

> Dear compa McT,
> 
> You being a rigorous techie, maybe you will not change your logical
> view... :) And I understand there is a lot of people in all sectors who
> feel disturbed by the emerging presence of Brazil and its concrete
> proposals to finally move on.
> 
> At the very beginning Fadi describes the motivation -- Rousseff's
> statement at the UN, her clear adherence to the basic principles most of
> civil society defends (which she has repeated several times in her radio
> program and her twitter @dilmabr), and her proposal to build a planetary
> framework of rights. This did not come out of the blue, from a meeting
> of IP addressers in a wonderful city called Montevideo. Do you think
> Fadi just dropped by the presidential door in Brasilia, knocked and
> entered to sell that proposal? :)
> 
> Anyway, it is relevant to understand that this is not a proposal for yet
> another Icann meeting, or a reedition of the UN chatting space called
> IGF, as both Dilma and Fadi made it very clear. It is a major
> achievement that that motivation brought Icann to colead this effort
> jointly with BR.
> 
> All the more so because, as you know, there are strong sectors within
> the government who would love to bring the root-zone to the purview of
> the ITU, who hate Icann, who do not like the pluriparticipative model of
> governance we defend, and who are basically associated with the
> transnational telecom oligopoly which controls the main networks in BR.
> Dilma is courageously up against a huge wall here, to defend those
> principles, and receiving Fadi and emerging from the meeting with thar
> proposal was a major political milestone for her in those internal
> disputes as well.
> 
> [] fraterno
> 
> --c.a.
> 
> On 10/10/2013 10:14 AM, McTim wrote:
>> At 55 seconds in, Fadi says:
>> "Her Excellency President Rousseff has accepted our invitation that we
>> hold next year a Global Summit"
>> 
>> Seem fairly clear to me.
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Carlos A. Afonso <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> McT, maybe you should watch the video a few times more... :)
>>> 
>>> --c.a.
>>> 
>>> On 10/10/2013 09:57 AM, McTim wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:50 PM, michael gurstein <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>> Why so pessimistic and cynical everyone.. I may be wrong but this isn't just
>>>>> about ICANN, although hats off to Fadi for getting this going and putting
>>>>> that into play…
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not pessimistic or cynical.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> But I would be extremely surprised if the Pres. of Brazil is going to invite
>>>>> the world to Rio in April next year to discuss names and numbers. Rather my
>>>>> reading is that she is by-passing the quite evident log-jam at the ITU, the
>>>>> frivolities of the IGF, the now discredited "Internet Freedom" crusade and
>>>>> the status quo which it was intended to cast into concrete errr… (non) rules
>>>>> and regs.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> It appears to me, after watching the video again several times that it
>>>> is ICANN (and I assume the rest of the Montevideoans) that are
>>>> spearheading this.  In other words the idea of the Summit comes from
>>>> the T&A folks, not Brasilia.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
>>