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Corinne Cath <[log in to unmask]>
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Corinne Cath <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 1 Nov 2016 11:58:15 +0000
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Hi Arthur and Kawesha,

I appreciate your email, Arthur. I think being reminded of the diversity of
our community is important. But that is also why I voiced my response to
Kawesha's email in the first place. Please don't see it as 'being hard' but
rather as a reflection of how such 'safety' suggestions can come from good
intentions yet be considered problematic to some in this diverse community
considering the internal assumptions they make about responsibility and
safety.

Best,

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Arthur Gwagwa <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Kaswesha, so sorry you seem to have gotten yourself into trouble here.
>
> Renata and Corrine, probably we shouldn't be too hard on Kaswesha on a
> public forum- his and your views are simply a demonstration of how diverse
> our community is and how our thinking on issues such as gender are still
> evolving at different stages.
>
> I notice that in an attempt to exonerate himself, Kaswesha has used the
> phrase 'beautiful ladies'. I recently attended a conference in the U.S
> where we were told that these days you shouldn' use such terms as
> 'beautiful' and 'ladies'. As an African man who grew up under British
> colonial rule, the British taught us to address women as 'madam' and 'lady'
> and it will take a generation to unlearn it.
>
> Thanks, guys! Oops, we were also taught not to address people as guys! but
> folks! But then in Africa folk is a dining utensil, as there is no
> difference in the way we pronounce folk and fork! Goodbye, folks!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1 November 2016 at 08:35, hvale - owp <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> Totally agree with Renata and a small note, usually there is not
>> "strange" male is the so called normal the ones who put us on a constant
>> alert mode :)
>>
>> love, hvale
>>
>>
>> On 10/31/2016 11:17 PM, Renata Aquinofear"
>> Ribeiro wrote:
>> > Dear James
>> >
>> > Thanks for replying to the declaration
>> > However, be careful when sharing those tips.
>> > They do not, unfortunately, reflect the reality of women going through
>> > violence and do not serve all women as we are all very different in
>> > countries and professions.
>> >
>> > The best thing is to know there folks willing to collaborate and
>> > understand on gender issues, understand that this is not about women
>> > only but creating a better world for all
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Renata
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:23 AM, KASWESHA <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >> I do care about Women do you? if your answer is yes spread this tips
>> to your
>> >> FB, Tweeter, Whasapp and other social media pages let us assist our
>> sisters
>> >> to protect themselves
>> >>
>> >> 1) What should a woman do if she finds herself alone in the company of
>> a
>> >> strange male as she prepares to enter a lift in a high-rise apartment
>> late
>> >> at night?
>> >>
>> >> Experts Say: Enter the lift. If you need to reach the 13th floor, press
>> >> all the buttons up to your destination. No one will dare attack you in
>> a
>> >> lift that stops on every floor.
>> >>
>> >> 2) What to do if a stranger tries to attack you when you are alone in
>> your
>> >> house, run into the kitchen.
>> >>
>> >> Experts Say: You alone know where the chili powder and turmeric are
>> kept.
>> >> And where the knives and plates are. All these can be turned into
>> deadly
>> >> weapons. If nothing else, start throwing plates and utensils all over.
>> Let
>> >> them break. Scream. Remember that noise is the greatest enemy of a
>> molester.
>> >> He does not want to be caught.
>> >>
>> >> 3} Taking an Auto or Taxi at Night
>> >> Experts Say:
>> >> Before getting into an auto at night, note down its registration
>> number.
>> >> Then use the mobile to call your family or friend and pass on the
>> details to
>> >> them in the language the driver understands .Even if no one answers
>> your
>> >> call, pretend you are in a conversation. The driver now knows someone
>> has
>> >> his details and he will be in serious trouble if anything goes wrong.
>> He is
>> >> now bound to take you home safe and sound. A potential attacker is now
>> your
>> >> de facto protector!
>> >>
>> >> 4}What if the driver turns into a street he is not supposed to - and
>> you
>> >> feel you are entering a danger zone?
>> >>
>> >> Experts Say: Use the handle of your purse or your stole (dupatta) to
>> wrap
>> >> around his neck and pull him back. Within seconds, he will feel choked
>> and
>> >> helpless. In case you don't have a purse or stole just pull him back
>> by his
>> >> collar. The top button of his shirt would then do the same trick.
>> >>
>> >> 5} If you are stalked at night.
>> >>
>> >> Expert Say: enter a shop or a house and explain your predicament.
>> >> If it is night and shops are not open, go inside an ATM box. ATM
>> centers
>> >> always have security guards. They are also monitored by close circuit
>> >> television. Fearing identification, no one will dare attack you.
>> >>
>> >> After all, being mentally alert is the greatest weapon you can ever
>> have.
>> >>
>> >> Please spread it to all those women u care & spread awareness as dis
>> is d
>> >> least we can do for a social & moral cause and fr d safety of women.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Cell-Phone +254 722 212171 or +254 721 274273
>> >>
>> >> Before printing this mail make sure it is completely necessary. THE
>> >> ENVIRONMENT IS EVERY ONE'S BUSINESS.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
>> [log in to unmask]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> Hi
>> >>>
>> >>> Sharing a background paper registered in the Joint CS Meeting
>> >>> Background Papers space
>> >>>
>> >>> "The Young Latin American Women Declaration aims to present our views
>> >>> and perspectives on the present Internet and also to appeal for an
>> >>> inclusive work that reflects not only about women, but also includes
>> >>> our perspectives not only as native and active participants of the
>> >>> Internet, involved in Internet governance and interested in fighting
>> >>> for a free and open Internet for everyone." [Excerpt}
>> >>>
>> >>> Authored by the Youth Observatory, organization which was in Youth LAC
>> >>> IGF, LAC IGF and has a number of projects on youth and internet
>> >>> governance, also a collaborative effort w/ BPF Gender and Access
>> >>>
>> >>> The declaration will be a topic also of the breakout session on
>> >>> "Regional Engagement in Internet Governance in LAC and developing
>> >>> countries"
>> >>>
>> >>> Young Latin American Women Declaration: Enabling access to empower
>> >>> young women and build a feminist Internet Governance
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> http://bestbits.net/youth-observatory-statement-on-building-
>> a-feminist-internet-governance/
>> >>>
>> >>> Joint CS Meeting registration
>> >>>
>> >>> http://bestbits.net/events/joint-cs-2016/
>> >>>
>> >>> Session on  "Regional Engagement in Internet Governance in LAC and
>> >>> developing countries"  #IGRegional
>> >>>
>> >>> http://bit.ly/igregionaligf
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>>
>> >>> Renata
>> >>
>>
>> --
>> valentina pellizzer
>> President
>> One World Platform
>>
>> https://oneworldplatform.net/
>>
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-- 
Corinne J.N. Cath
Ph.D. Candidate, Oxford Internet Institute & Alan Turing Institute

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