Thanks, James, for stepping in and doing a better job of explaining it than
I could. I agree with you that the summary is poorly written but you’ve
captured the context well.
Paul
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From: James Gannon [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
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Subject: Re: "Limitations on ICANN's contracting authority."
Sorry guys Im only catching up on this now.
So yes that wording is terrible and needs to be updated.
The actual meaning behind this was as a result of a comment from the BC in
PC1 that sought to allow ICANN compliance to enforce restrictions that may
be outside of its mission in cases where those restrictions were as a result
of mutual agreement between the registry and ICANN. We fought against that
path for obvious reasons, and the response from the BC was that without
their language they felt that ICANN wouldn’t be able to enforce its rightful
compliance mission through its ability to contract with registries.
Many of us disagreed with that and felt that the language as it stands now
does not prohibit or hinder ICANN from entering into contracts where they
have a compliance responsibility.
But I agree that the language does not reflect that adequately.
-James Gannon
On 19 Aug 2015, at 17:00, David Post <[log in to unmask]
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But if that's the meaning of the laguage, shouldn't we still be worried
about it? I would think that the mission statement SHOULD "prohibit ICANN
from imposing other obligations on registries/registrars," no? That is,
ICANN should not be permitted to impose obligations on
registries/registrars, by contract or otherwise, obligations that are not
within its mission - doesn't this language cut dramatically against that?
David
At 04:04 PM 8/18/2015, Paul Rosenzweig wrote:
Ahhh … in context I think this is clear (or at least it is to me). The
concern was that by restricting ICANN’s mission and prohibiting it from
regulating services or content we might inadvertently be also prohibiting
ICANN for imposing other obligations on registries/registrars. All this is
intended to say (and the language may be inartful) is that the mission
limitation on regulation of services and content does not OTHERWISE limit
the remaining contractual authorities of ICANN. That, at least, was the
thrust of the conversation in Paris and that is what this summary in para
158 is intended to capture.
Paul
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I was reading the CCWG proposal and had one of those WTF moments….
Can someone who was in Paris or who was more involved in CCWG tell me what
this means:
“The CCWG-Accountability …concluded that the prohibition on regulation of
services that use the Internet’s unique identifiers or the content that
they carry or provide does not act as a restraint on ICANN’s contracting
authority.”
WHAT???
Since ICANN regulates by contracts with registries and registrars, the
prohibition on regulation of services that use the Internet’s unique
identifiers or the content that they carry or provide had bloody well
better limit ICANN’s ability to regulate services and content via contracts,
otherwise it doesn’t prohibit anything. Am I missing something here?
Dr. Milton L. Mueller
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Georgia Institute of Technology
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