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Rosemary Sinclair <[log in to unmask]>
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No problem Alex



These are complicated issues with much history to understand!



Cheers



Rosemary

Sent from my BlackBerry® from Optus



-----Original Message-----

From: "Alex Gakuru" <[log in to unmask]>

Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 07:00:42 

To: Rosemary Sinclair<[log in to unmask]>

Cc: <[log in to unmask]>

Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: Constituencies, old and new



Rosemary,



My response was inadvertently under this thread when meant for another.

Please ignore it here and excuse me.



Alex



On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Rosemary Sinclair <

[log in to unmask]> wrote:



> so now we have to chat about "grandfathering provisions" and need a new

> clause in the proposed Charter which is clear on our position that any

> Constituency however approved that is a part of NCSG is bound by the Charter

> rules of NCSG....

>

> Rosemary

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: NCSG-NCUC on behalf of Alex Gakuru

> Sent: Fri 11/12/2010 3:45 AM

> To: [log in to unmask]

> Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: Constituencies, old and new

>

> Spot on Milton! See:

> http://forum.icann.org/lists/soac-newgtldapsup-wg/msg00627.html

> It was just after the Board had decided to do away with the work we'd done

> on JAS-WG. However, they later on changed their mind and "encouraged us to

> carry on with the work."

>

>

> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Milton L Mueller <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>

> >  Off list

> >

> >

> >

> > *From:* NCSG-NCUC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf

> > Of *Rosemary Sinclair

> >

> >

> >

> > Hmmm - the way I read our proposed Charter is that a Constituency however

> > formed (whether from within or by direct application to the Board)

> >

> > When it is within NCSG (whether formed from within or attached by the

> > Board)

> >

> > Is then bound by our Charter rules on voting, Councillors etc

> >

> > That would be incorrect.

> >

> > If NPOC is formed under our proposed NCSG charter, then it is bound by

> our

> > rules on voting, Councillors, etc.

> >

> > But our charter is not in effect yet, and clearly Amber and Debbie are

> not

> > applying under those rules.

> >

> >

> >

> > So if the constituency is approved before the NCSG charter is approved,

> we

> > really have no idea how NCSG works.

> >

> > And it is possible, though not likely, that we revert to the old

> > constituency rules, which creates the walled garden/silos.

> >

> > No way around it: Debbie and Amber's move was untimely and not

> > constructive. Even if you like their constituency proposal, the way

> they've

> > done it creates a mess.

> >

>




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