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Glenn Ricart <[log in to unmask]>
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I support allowing time for owners to get the same name with diacritical
marks.

Glenn


On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 4:05 PM Tomslin Samme-Nlar <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Hi NCSG,
>
> Below is an important matter that needs your input and guidance. This is
> related to diacritics, which I believe @Tapani Tarvainen
> <[log in to unmask]> and @Stephanie Perrin
> <[log in to unmask]> have opinions about. But there is an
> additional procedural issue surrounding how the diacritics issue is
> potentially resolved that needs our attention.
>
> For a brief background for those who've not followed the diacritics issue,
> an applied-for IDN gTLD string in the Latin script containing diacritics
> (e.g .Québec versus .Quebec), which is NOT an allocatable variant label of
> the base ASCII string (existing or applied-for) according to RZ-LGR, are
> sometimes seen as equivalents. In some instances however, the base ASCII
> string is seen as a workaround and not necessarily “correct”. The base
> ASCII string and the Latin diacritic string  may be determined to be
> confusingly similar (i.e., in which case, the strings would be placed in a
> contention set or if an existing gTLD is involved, the applied-for label
> would not pass the String Similarity Review and therefore be rejected - the
> case of .Quebec).
>
> As you may also be aware, the Council Small Team Plus has been working to
> address some SubPro recommendations not adopted by the Board and one of
> them is Recommendation 24 - which relates to string similarity singular and
> plurals and this is up for council vote on April 18.
>
> ICANN staff is suggesting that the Council delays that vote and modify
> that recommendation to allow the same entity to apply for (and obtain) a
> visually similar string if the similarity is diacritic base (case of
> Québec and .Quebe).  What this means is that if the council accepts this
> approach, it may need to task the current Small Team + on SubPro to study
> this diacritic issue and propose a recommendation on diacritics as part of
> Recommendation 24.
>
> My question to you is:
>
>    1. Should our councillors vote to allow SubPro Rec 24 to be used to
>    address the diacritics issue?
>    2. Should the Small team Plus be tasked with this additional work of
>    developing a proposed supplemental recommendation that addresses the
>    diacritics issue?
>
>
> Warmly,
> Tomslin
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Steve Chan via council <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 at 07:15
> Subject: [council] Interim Update on Mechanism(s) to Address Latin
> Diacritics
> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>
>
> Dear Councilors,
>
>
>
> As you may have seen, the April Council meeting is scheduled to have an
> update on the research and analysis ICANN org has performed to understand
> the mechanism(s) that might be available to progress the work related to
> Latin diacritics. While we will provide a more comprehensive update during
> the Council meeting, we wanted to share an early preview of the update, as
> it may have implications on the Council’s vote on a subset of the SubPro
> Supplemental Recommendations. In brief, our recommended approach is for the
> Council to consider modifying/amending the non-adopted recommendations
> related to string similarity (i.e., Recommendations 24.3 and 24.5) if it
> wants to take up the issue of Latin diacritics. Under the ICANN Bylaws and
> GNSO Operating Procedures, there are two avenues to pursue this path, which
> are either Section 16 of the PDP Manual
> <https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/annex-2-pdp-manual-15mar23-en_0.pdf#page=10>
>  (see page 10) or the Supplemental Recommendation process, as employed by
> the Small Team Plus.
>
>
>
> With the Council’s consideration and potential adoption of Supplemental
> Recommendations 24.3A, 24.3B, and 24.3C during its April meeting, there may
> be challenges to using either Section 16 or the Supplemental Recommendation
> process to progress the Latin diacritics issues:
>
>    1. Section 16: The PDP Manual states that, “approved GNSO Council
>    policies may be modified or amended by the GNSO Council at any time prior
>    to the final approval by the ICANN Board…”. If the Council approves
>    Supplemental Recommendations 24.3A, 24.3B, and 24.3C AND they are adopted
>    by the ICANN Board, this option would no longer be available (i.e., “final
>    approval” will have occurred).
>    2. Supplemental Recommendations: If the Council approves Supplemental
>    Recommendations 24.3A, 24.3B, and 24.3C, the Council would not be able to
>    develop further Supplemental Recommendations related to Latin diacritics.
>
>
>
> We understand the Council has committed to taking action on the
> Supplemental Recommendations during its April meeting, so we believe it is
> important to provide you with this information in advance of your meeting
> for effective planning and decision-making. Please let us know if you have
> any questions.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
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