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"Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G." <[log in to unmask]>
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Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G.
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I see a few hundred of stakeholders in ITU (Sector members). Even ISOC. 
But I don’t see ICANN


https://www.itu.int/online/mm/scripts/gensel11


Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
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On 8 Aug 2016, at 7:14, Sam Lanfranco wrote:

> And ICANN is a "stakeholder without standing" in the ITU. As Internet 
> governance comes of age it will transpire in many locations and at 
> many levels.
> Just like stakeholders within ICANN, ICANN will have to figure out how 
> to be everywhere almost all the time to deal with policy issues that 
> impinge on its remit.
>
> Sam L.
>
> On 2016-08-07 8:47 PM, Mueller, Milton L wrote:
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> But I guess GAC has less well-defined institutional dynamics than 
>>> ITU.  Is that
>>> the difference you're getting at? -- I'm no expert on ITU either...)
>>>
>>> Or, are we now considering governments "stakeholders" too?  If so, 
>>> why not
>>> just make GAC a garden-variety SG in GNSO?  The "GSG" -- Government
>>> Stakeholder Group?
>> Bingo. That's what is happening.
>>
>>> I may not be expert in the implications of the term of art 
>>> "multilateral"
>>> but I honestly don't see much difference in ICANN being whip-tailed 
>>> by GAC or
>>> ITU if the dynamic is comparable.  Can you elaborate on this 
>>> distinction?
>> The difference is that an ICANN completely dominated by governments 
>> is worse than the ITU because ICANN has global hierarchical power 
>> over the DNS, whereas as a treaty-based organization the ITU cannot 
>> make any sovereign member do something it doesn't want to do. When 
>> ICANN imposes rules on how DNS works however, it has global effect.
>>
>
> -- 
>
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