I'm with Norbert.

I read 20 Icann related mail in like 20 minutes. Could have marked the 
whole thread read in one click if I would have prefered. BTW, the NCSG 
nirvana  the way I see it  would be something like 150 message per 
subject thread (1 each or whatever). So I certainly can't fathom

The list is not an announce list. This is, ideally, a policy-making 
forum. ICANN has lots of RSS feeds where one can subscribe for an 
announce type of service. Perhaps NCSG could have one too, for this 
purpose.

But there is no "cleaning" of this list that will not come with a 
participation loss. There is a limit to how democracy will keep your 
listserv neat, unfortunately.

Internal NCUC is another mater. I might be for such a list.

Nicolas

On 22/11/2011 10:56 AM, nhklein wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> sorry, I have been involved in ICANN since 1999, but some of the 
> recent discussions on this list seem to say that I am no longer in 
> this world. My difficulties to follow these discussions relate to the 
> fact that these different lists were a place "where we met" and 
> discussed common concerns, in spite of the fact that we are spread 
> around the globe (with some obvious "cultural" regions more dominant 
> than others.
>
>>> I think you are missing Judy's point. She is saying*she wishes to stay involved and informed, without the debates.*  A well curated announce list is the only solution. Working in harmony with the confluence as a reference.
>>>
> This idea cuts me completely off from our common history of many years 
> - *to be involved and informed without the debates???*
>
> *To be involved did mean to participate in the debates* (and even if 
> it meant to share some observation or thoughts only very occasionally).
>
> And *how to be informed without observing the continuously on-going 
> debates among us, the "bottom-up membership"?* I think this was never 
> possible in the past.
>
> But there is obviously a climate change happening (not only in the 
> physical atmosphere) by a new use of limited resources. And there is 
> quite some concern that the climate change may have quite destructive 
> effects, if it does not get under considerate control.
>
>
> Norbert Klein
> -- 
> A while ago, I started a new blog:
>
> ...thinking it over... after 21 years in Cambodia
> http://www.thinking21.org/
>
> continuing to share reports and comments from Cambodia.
>
> Norbert Klein
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> Phnom Penh / Cambodia
>