Dear Niels,

No Hate is an example in this regards. I sometimes have problems to
understand your very theoretical approach. I like more practical
things, we are different.

Colleagues of Article 19 are also in our IRPC coalition and for them
it does not refer to a night club or anything else. But maybe I have
different point of view.

thanks,your
vik

On 02/10/2015, Niels ten Oever <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Dear Viktor,
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> I am not really convinced bu the argument that the Internet has (or
> should have) the same status as a night club. If any part of the
> Internet would simply drop packets because of the wrong header, we
> would simply route around it.
>
> Am also not sure if this is a sufficient mapping of human rights
> online, it seems that most things are described in relation to hate
> speech, whereas the is more to say, non-discrimination then what is
> described here, no? Take for instance algorithmic decision making.
>
> Also missed a discussion on Intermediary Liability in the document,
> does is align with the Manila Principles?
>
> Best,
>
> Niels
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10/02/2015 10:43 AM, Viktor Szabados wrote:
>> Hello Everybody,
>>
>> let me give also some input from my side, as consultant of the No
>> Hate Speech Movement of the Council of Europe. We have a quite good
>> summary of all the issues around human rights and Internet, in
>> particular linked to hate speech. We run besides the campaign
>> conferences, workshops and this guide is also for different
>> exercises around this topic. We can offer you inputs and knowledge
>> based on the expertise and experience of our campaign run since
>> 2012.
>>
>> An other good network of experts is around the Internet Rights and
>> Principles Coalition where I am also member of the board, see our
>> Charter also below. The Coalition gained also official observer
>> status at the Council of Europe’s Steering Committee on Media
>> Information and Society (CDMSI).
>>
>>
>> NHSM Council of Europe - No Hate Speech Movement
>> http://www.nohatespeechmovement.org Bookmarks p. 144-145 see
>> attached, full edition link below
>> http://nohate.ext.coe.int/Campaign-Tools-and-Materials/Bookmarks
>> http://nohate.ext.coe.int/content/download/38987/300906/file/Bookmarks
> _EN_online.pdf
>>
>>  Human rights and the Internet The Internet is mostly “owned” and
>> controlled by private companies. This makes the protection of human
>> rights more complicated, because human rights are really ‘rules for
>> governments’, not private companies. If a shopping mall or private
>> nightclub wants to forbid people from wearing jeans, protesting, or
>> distributing information about another company, all of which are
>> forms of ‘expression’, you cannot plead freedom of expression and
>> take them to the European Court of Human Rights! In the same way,
>> private companies can mostly set the rules that people must abide
>> by when using parts of the Internet owned by them. If people do not
>> like the rules, they can complain, but the ultimate sanction is
>> simply not to use the service. However, this does not mean that
>> those parts of the world which are owned by private companies,
>> including the Internet, are not regulated by human rights laws!
>> Human rights impose (at least) two different types of obligation on
>> governments: 1. They set limits on what governments are actively
>> allowed to do, for example, they are not allowed to ban all
>> political dissent, engage in torture, or deprive someone of their
>> liberty without proper reason. 2. They oblige governments to take
>> positive action to ensure that rights are properly protected. This
>> may mean passing laws which prohibit discrimination, making sure
>> that violent acts are prosecuted (and punished), or ensuring that
>> victims receive proper protection. ...
>>
>>
>> IRPC Internet Rights and Principles Coalition -
>> http://internetrightsandprinciples.org/ the charter of human rights
>> and principles for the internet
>> http://internetrightsandprinciples.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2014/08
> /IRPC_Booklet-English_4thedition.pdf
>>
>>  What do we mean by Human Rights & Principles? Human rights are
>> international human rights as defined by international law. We have
>> translated these directly to the internet with provisions such as
>> freedom from blocking and filtering. These can be identified by the
>> use of language such as “everyone has a right to...” and “everyone
>> has a freedom to...”. By “Principles” we are talking about those
>> internet policy principles or implementation principles that
>> describe features of the system which are required to support human
>> rights, these can be identified by the use of language such as
>> “shall” and “must”. ...
>>
>>
>> Happy to give more insight or connection if needed, just drop me a
>> line.
>>
>> thanks,your vik
>>
>> On 01/10/2015, Sam Lanfranco <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> As we struggle to determine where and how human rights fit into
>>> what ICANN is and what it does, it might be useful to read the
>>> recent report to the UN General Assembly by the UN Special
>>> Rapporteur on extreme poverty and human rights, Philip Alston,
>>> submitted in accordance with Human Rights Council resolution
>>> 26/.
>>>
>>> It is short, 23 pages long, and has been used by others to
>>> describe the World Bank, in negative terms, as a "Human-Rights
>>> Free Zone". I would hate to see that label applied to ICANN.
>>>
>>> http://www.un.org/en/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=A/70/274
>>>
>>> Sam L.
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> Re: Human Rights@ICANN 54   Inbox Stephanie
>> Perrin<[log in to unmask]>	1 October 2015 at 17:32
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>
>> Gac public safety committee, on Monday at 330 to 430 I believe
>> Stephanie
>>
>> On 2015-10-01 9:44, Marilia Maciel wrote: Dear NCSGers,
>>
>> Here is a compilation of ICANN sessions that are either about
>> human rights or that relate to Human Rights discussions. May be of
>> interest to this group.
>>
>> Please, take a look and see if you would have any
>> additions/deletions to make: http://bit.ly/1LSIbvQ
>>
>> Best wishes, Marília
>>
>
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> Niels ten Oever
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