May I suggest this group would also benchmark ideas with the SOs/ACs 
ACCT Work Track? Hope any effort would allow us to look better in the 
future, not only internally, but also as benchmark with other groups. my 
1 cent.

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On 6 Sep 2016, at 11:42, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:

> Hi Bill,
>
> That is a very good suggestion. Let's form a working group, basically
> just create a new mailing list, for people who want to work on
> election reform, rather than clogging up the general -discuss list
> with all the details.
>
> -- 
> Tapani Tarvainen
>
> On Sep 06 09:29, William Drake ([log in to unmask]) wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I agree with Sam that there is more important business to attend to 
>> right now and suspect an extended round of back and forths on 
>> election design is unlikely to be productive.  There are well over 
>> 500 members on this list and interest in reading through this debate 
>> may not be universal.  Our priority here should be facilitating 
>> engagement on ICANN/GNSO policy issues.
>>
>> Why don't those members who are keen to redesign the ballot for the 
>> next cycle form a working group and develop a proposal or two that 
>> can be brought back to the full list and the NCSG EC down the line?
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>> On Sep 6, 2016, at 00:12, Sam Lanfranco <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> We had an election where the terms of the election were clear to 
>>> all. Some of us did not like the way NOTA was handled in the 
>>> election and have asked the NCSG EC review that, as well as review 
>>> other election format issues.
>>>
>>> It is not at all productive to question why individual voters voted 
>>> as they did, wondering if they were confused or unduly swayed by 
>>> this or that posting. If we have suggestions about a better format 
>>> for NCSG elections, we should convey those ideas to the NCSG EC. 
>>> There they will be deliberated in an open and transparent manner 
>>> such that we arrive at a clear consensus with regard to the way 
>>> elections are handled in the future. In the mean time there is ample 
>>> other business to attend to.
>>>
>>> On 9/5/2016 5:50 PM, Mueller, Milton L wrote:
>>>
>>> ................[deleted]...............
>>>
>>> Sam L.
>>
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