Dear Ayden,

Thanks a lot for this extremely detailed feedback. We will most likely be
debating and discussing this issue Marrakech, and maybe we can address the
issues you raise here comprehensively together .

Warmest.
Padmini
On Mar 2, 2016 9:06 PM, "Ayden Férdeline" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Dear Padmini,
>
> Thank you for sharing this document with the discussion group.
>
> I write with full disclosure that I have not been a part of the Documentary
> Information Disclosure Policy (DIDP) subgroup and have not been involved
> with your work to date. However, moving forward, I hope I will be able to
> contribute to your research and the drafting of your recommendations.
>
> This document is a great starting point but I'd like to suggest we add
> some more evidence, adopt a more neutral tone in some of the sentences, and
> strengthen the recommendations.
>
> I was wondering how the examples of best practices you cite in this
> document were chosen? Given how many data protection bodies there are
> globally, why did you decide to cite Finland’s Act on the Openness of
> Government Activities on page two, for instance? I suspect it is very
> liberal and I understand the desire to borrow best practices from a
> faster-moving body. However, the cynic in me thinks I could identify
> hundreds of similar bodies with worse or identical practices to what ICANN
> has on the release of information in its possession, custody, or control.
> It is perfectly reasonable to turn to Finland; I just think the argument
> would be more persuasive if we could explain why this example is relevant.
> You do this when citing India’s Right to Information Act — that table which
> compares and contrasts how ICANN works in relation to the Indian government
> is brilliant and its arguments compelling.
>
> Some of the language is also a little emotive. I know we in the NCSG are
> probably on the same page on this topic, but phrases like “it cannot be
> denied” are just asking for trouble if we send this through to those on
> the CCWG-Accountability given the myriad of members present. (And please
> correct me if I'm wrong here, as I don't have a lot of background as
> to DIDP subgroup or who it reports to - this is being sent to the
> CCWG-Accountability, right? Or is it going somewhere else? I have a feeling
> I might be a bit lost here as to the intended audience.)
>
> Finally, the conclusion is just too short. It's one sentence and all we're
> asking is that the CCWG-Accountability “acknowledge … these challenges and
> suggestions so that transparency can be truly, meaningfully achieve[d]”. I
> worry about this recommendation. It's easy for those receiving this
> document to say, 'okay, acknowledged', and to take no further action. Can
> we instead come up with 5 or 6 tangible actions we would like taken
> instead?
>
> Thanks again to everyone who was involved in drafting this document. It's
> looking great and with a few small revisions I think we will have something
> very persuasive and loaded with evidence. If I can help in any way with
> research or in drafting the actionable recommendations, I'm happy to do so.
> And if I have mistaken the audience for this document or its intention (and
> I do worry that I have!), I apologise for wasting your time, but please
> understand I am fascinated by the topic and just not too informed as to how
> this subgroup was established or of its history.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 4:52 AM, Padmini <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ni6fhKZ421WS671EepjxsawHKkI__8fznhb2h32wIRg/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> This is a document containing a summary of the reforms  that the DIDP
>> Subgroup had recommended over the course of the past few months. I have
>> included research that I had done in this regard earlier, and incorporated
>> the research and suggestions placed forth by Farzaneh, Karel, Brett,
>> Michael, Robin, Pranesh and Ed in this regard.
>>
>> Please do go over it, and leave comments wherever you find it necessary.
>>
>> Hope this is useful as we begin deliberations on this crucial
>> transparency tool next week.
>>
>> Warmest
>> Padmini
>>
>
>
> Ayden Férdeline
> Statement of Interest
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