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What is amazing is how trademark law becomes so contorted to  
commercial interests at ICANN.  This proposed list a good example.

What is supposed to be a mechanism to protect consumers from  
confusion about competing goods winds up becoming the creation of a  
list to prohibit a word's use all together in a name space, for a fee  
of course.  Actual trademark rights and their boundaries,  
limitations, etc. are irrelevant.

Robin

On Aug 19, 2012, at 7:07 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote:

> Excellent points, Edward.
>
> From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf  
> Of Edward Morris
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 5:11 PM
>
> Thank you for the heads up Kathy. This proposal is dangerous not  
> only in terms of intent but also in terms of proposed implementation.
>
> Melbourne IT proposes replication of the .XXX Sunrise B rollout for  
> famous marks. Sunrise B allowed those claiming interest in a word /  
> mark to make it disappear from the .XXX world by paying a one time  
> fee that would lead ICM to disappear the word forever. If the brand  
> owner later wanted to resurrect the word for use in commerce: no luck.
>
> Forget transparency: there is no public record of who paid to  
> disappear the word and, in fact, if the three Deltas (faucet,  
> airline, dental) each wanted to disappear the word in conjunction  
> with .XXX,  ICM would gladly pocket the fee from each of the three  
> with no one being the wiser. In ICM's ideal world all businesses  
> would be call "Smith", all Smith's would pay to disappear the word  
> and ICM would be very rich for doing nothing more than delisting a  
> single moniker.
>
> For those of us who live in jurisdictions with use requirements for  
> trademarks,  this novel means of 'defensive registration' turns  
> that concept on the head with a 'nonuse' requirement. Once delisted  
> the mark can never be used.  This does not so much help consumers  
> avoid confusion as it does reduce competition and reduce linguistic  
> possibilities. It is the anti-trademark or, if you will, the  
> 'nonuse' trademark.
>
> Trademarks historically are limited by geography and product class.  
> The internet disrupted these concepts, concepts that  are somewhat  
> akin to fair dealing in other i.p. worlds. The introduction of new  
> gTld's presented a great opportunity to reintroduce the concept of  
> product class to the online environment. Politics being what they  
> are that did not happen. Instead we are once again faced with an  
> attempt by intellectual property owners to expand i.p. rights  
> online  in a way they could not and have not been able to achieve  
> offline.
>
> These efforts must be resisted. If not, let me introduce you to the  
> 'domain name navigation right' : one of several new magically  
> created i.p. rights that are being bantered about in the i.p.  
> community. If they can achieve in ICANN a list of famous marks,  
> something brand owners have been trying to do since 6bis was  
> introduced to the Paris Convention in the '20's, who can blame them  
> for turning to ICANN whenever their attempts to expand i.p.  
> protection fail elsewhere?
>
> --
>
> Kathy Kleiman [log in to unmask] via alumni.usc.edu
> 8:48 PM (1 hour ago)
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> Hi All,
> I don't know how many people remember our work on the GPML - the  
> Globally Protected Marks List. It was a proposal of the  
> intellectual property community to create a "reserved list" of  
> words that would be ineligible for registration as second-level  
> domain names in the new gTLDs. At least, not until the user first  
> proved that there was no remote likelihood of confusion with any of  
> the trademark owner's users.
>
> Needless to say, this is not ICANN's balliwick. It's not a word  
> smith, or a trademark forum, it's a technical organization. So we,  
> NCUC, responded that the right place to create protections for  
> "famous marks" is somewhere other than ICANN.
>
> We pointed out that while trademarks have international protections  
> via treaty, famous marks don't. There is simply no consensus  
> internationally on famous marks, no international list of famous  
> marks, and no international standard of protection on famous  
> marks.   So Orange, Caterpillar and Virgin are famous marks to  
> some, and normal words to others.
>
> So, sigh, the issue rears its head again. Melbourne IT released a  
> paper called Minimizing HARM where it posits the creation of an  
> infinite number of "High At-Risk Marks (HARM)," their new term for  
> Famous Marks, and a permanent protection in all new gTLDs --  
> including takedown by the URS dispute process in two days (2 days!)  
> unless the registrant responds **and pays**.  We fought against two  
> weeks as too short -- especially for the many new gTLD domain names  
> that will be registered by individuals, small organizations, small  
> businesses, and people from countries where English is neither a  
> first (nor second) language. Two days!!??
>
> One bright note is that new "HARM" famous marks are supposed to "be  
> distinctive" and "not match common words," but the paper notes that  
> "marks like Apple or Gap may not be eligible."  The use of the word  
> "may" instead of will-definitely-not-be-eligible-because-they-are- 
> normal-words-used-by-everyone suggests to me that the "slippery  
> slope" of expansion has already begun.
>
> Plus there's no limit -- infinite numbers of these new soon-to-be- 
> famous registrations possible.
>
> So let the fun begin, a new proposal to massively expand  
> intellectual property rights now takes the floor.
>
> Press release by Melbourne IT is posted by Reuters at http:// 
> www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/16/idUS121841+16-Aug-2012 
> +BW20120816. It includes a link to the "Minimizing HARM" paper  
> released yesterday.
>
> Sigh and best,
> Kathy
>
>
> Kathy Kleiman, Esq.
> Internet Counsel, Fletcher, Heald & Hildreth, Arlington, Virginia, US
> Co-Lead Internet Law and Policy Group
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