I smell something not interesting.
But hope to hear more updates since I suppose they are receiving
complaints from the community and they will hopefully manage to
address them
2016-06-03 14:04 UTC+02:00, Ayden Férdeline <[log in to unmask]>:
> Thanks for providing this update, Avri.
> I don't want to shoot the messenger, but like Seun I find the comment about
> the
> recordings not to be a very compelling one.
> I have no issue with a retreat that brings together the right people, at
> the
> right time, for the right reasons, with the right process. I see this as an
> opportunity for the IGF to take stock, build the strategic muscle needed to
> see
> the IGF in new and refreshed ways, and to give a turbo boost to certain
> matters
> that need attention.
> I have been silent on this issue for the past fortnight because I believe
> that
> extraneous participation benefits no one. If people don’t have a vested
> interest
> in the process, don’t have the knowledge to contribute, and there’s no need
> to
> build their buy-in, it may not be useful for them to attend the retreat,
> online
> or in person.
> However, there is no reason for activities that will lead to meaty
> discussions
> and, in turn, outcomes that will impact people outside of the room, to not
> be
> recorded. There should be full transcripts made available of all
> conversations
> facilitated by the organisers. I also oppose the use of the Chatham House
> rule
> at the retreat — if your idea is so great, say it on the record and
> attribute it
> to your name and/or organisation. You are being entrusted to shape the
> future
> direction of the IGF for the next 10 years, so there should be a full and
> accurate record of events so we can look back, check in every year, and
> keep
> your work alive.
> Just my $0.02.
> Ayden
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 12:31 PM, William Drake [log in to unmask] wrote:
> Hi
> Thanks Shane. I’m familiar with the rule. We don’t use it in the IGF, for
> various reasons, at least not since the early tense days of the MAG.
> Bill
>
> On Jun 3, 2016, at 12:13, Shane Kerr < [log in to unmask] > wrote:
> William,
>
> At 2016-06-03 11:13:55 +0200
> William Drake < [log in to unmask] > wrote:
>
> On Jun 3, 2016, at 02:06, avri doria < [log in to unmask] > wrote:
>
> Chatham House style (content w/o attribution)
>
> In true bottom up transparent community driven IGF fashion….not.
>
> To be honest, that doesn't seem too horrible. The Chatham House rule is
> there for a reason:
>
> Q. What are the benefits of using the Rule?
>
> A. It allows people to speak as individuals, and to express views
> that may not be those of their organizations, and therefore it
> encourages free discussion. People usually feel more relaxed if
> they don't have to worry about their reputation or the implications
> if they are publicly quoted.
>
> https://www.chathamhouse.org/about/chatham-house-rule
>
> Cheers,
>
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>
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