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​Yesterday I
 browsed  a bunch of YouTube vids of the Stones concert in Havana. Plenty
of smartphones in evidence.

​j

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 9:44 AM, William Drake <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> FWIW I had lunch with Vint Cerf at Google in DC the other day and he’d
> just returned from a week in Cuba, where Google’s been invited to play a
> notable role in broadening out access
> http://www.wsj.com/articles/google-and-obama-administration-connect-over-cuba-1458763836.
> He said the Cubans actually have some pretty decent technology in place
> already, much of it Chinese but also some home grown stuff. So they’re
> playing off companies from different countries against each other for
> contracts, kind of the new nonaligned movement.
>
> I suspect many US companies expecting to cut deals quickly will
> disappointed, as there’s growing reports of the government imposing delays
> and backtracking on agreements as part of an effort to push US businesses
> into the ‘end the embargo’ camp in US congressional politics.  Not a
> surprising strategy, hope it works.  US businesses, especially the tech
> sector, have become an important force in stopping discriminatory state
> policies, maybe they’ll emerge as the key here as well.
>
> Bill
>
> > On Mar 30, 2016, at 01:03, Arsène Tungali <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> > I am learning a lot here. I was not following much of the Cuban
> information society lately. Thanks for bringing this up!
> >
> > -----------------
> > Arsène Tungali,
> > Executive Director, Rudi International
> > www.rudiinternational.org
> >
> > Founder & Director, Mabingwa Forum
> > www.mabingwa-forum.com
> > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo
> > Phone: +243993810967
> >
> > 2015 Mandela Washington Fellow | ICANN Fellow | ISOC IGF Ambassador |
> Activist & Youth Leader
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)
> >
> >> On Mar 29, 2016, at 9:55 PM, Dorothy K. Gordon <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Olevie,
> >>           For many years Ghana sent students to Cuba to study Computer
> Science.  They came back with excellent skills. We have two of them at
> AITI-KACE. The embargo had many different kinds of impact. For instance
> massive piracy of products that were embargoed and therefore no 'legal'
> copy could be obtained; and the creation of a robust Island-wide 'intranet'
> which had locally cached and locally created  content for use in health,
> education etc. Cuba also has a systematic programme of identifying talented
> young people for its flagship University of Information Sciences
> (Universidad de las Ciencias Informáticas, or UCI).  I enjoyed
> participating in Informatica a few times. I believe part of the objective
> of the meeting was to help the community stay informed of tech developments
> globally despite the embargo.  I met RMS at Informatica. So Cuban
> leadership has anticipated the digital revolution at least in terms of core
> skills.  I do hope researchers gear up to see how the opening up to the
> internet will impact on this groundwork. Will we see a slew of cuban apps
> on various app stores? or will innovation be smothered by the availability
> of solutions from more mature markets especially those which are proclaimed
> as free but are not open.
> >>
> >> best
> >>
> >> Dorothy K. Gordon
> >> Director-General
> >> Ghana-India Kofi Annan Centre of Excellence in ICT
> >> Mobile: 233 265005712
> >> Direct Line: 233 302 683579
> >> Website: www.aiti-kace.com.gh
> >> Encrypt Everything - https://gpgtools.org https://silentcircle.com
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Olévié Kouami" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, 29 March, 2016 7:13:41 PM GMT +00:00 Casablanca /
> Monrovia
> >> Subject: Re: US dialogue w/ Europe and views on internet access in Cuba
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi everyone.
> >>
> >> Excuse me to interfere in this discussion but from my humble point of
> view, a good integration of any country to the global dynamics of the
> information society , depends greatly on the political will of decision
> makers placed at the highest level of ladder in each society.
> >>
> >> With the example of Cuba , I realize that Africa is not so late we
> might think in this area. In my country, for example , lives people with
> technical skills that the country itself has not ...
> >>
> >> My 2 cents
> >> -Olévié-
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2016-03-29 17:00 GMT+00:00 Sam Lanfranco < [log in to unmask] > :
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Renata,
> >>
> >> Just a short comment here. "Political Will" is a term that can easily
> be misunderstood. There are structural issues in Cuba, but this is not the
> place for that discussion. While in Havana I cited the successful
> Transition Estonia digital/Internet strategy. Estonia stressed that
> political will includes clarity on the principles to be advanced/protected,
> as well as abandoning what the Estonians called "legacy thinking" and not
> just "legacy technology". Myanmar's recent transition from near zero access
> to over 50% (cell) access was also cited as a strategy for blending the
> interests of the old telecom system with the new realities of cellular
> networks. The bottom lines is that Political will has to embrace more than
> the why and what. Political will also has to embrace open space to explore
> how to execute the how. It is important to note that the Estonian
> transition was developed from within and not imported from outside, while
> benefiting from lessons learned elsewhere.
> >>
> >> Sam L.
> >>
> >>
> >> Some On 29/03/2016 12:23 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Sam
> >>
> >> I took a pic of the 2 Cuban representatives here
> >> https://twitter.com/renataaquino/status/714848891141808128
> >>
> >> They were really vocal to the US Ambassador about agreements which
> would increase internet connectivity in the region so one can see the
> political will is there (i am assuming they are from government or CS
> advocates). Dialogue lines were open, the official line by the US govt
> included lines such as "internet is the democratization of power".
> >>
> >> When someone from Spain asked about dialogue w/ China and Russia as
> well for privacy laws (lots of people from banks here and worried about EU
> on privacy), the ambassador talked about anticipating something on OECD.
> >>
> >> So political will is all you see here. But, this in ambassador. If that
> will translate further...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> All the best
> >>
> >>
> >> Renata
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
> >> Olévié Ayaovi Agbenyo KOUAMI
> >>
> >>
> >> Directeur-Adjoint de O and K IT SOLUTIONS sarl
> >> Editeur de logiciels de gestion (PGI/ERP) S.I.G.E. (http://
> www.oandkit.com )
> >>
> >> Président/CEO de l'INTIC4DEV (Institut des TIC pour le développement)
> http://www.intic4dev.org
> >>
> >> Secrétaire Général de l'ESTETIC - Association Togolaise des
> professionnels des TIC ( http://www.estetic.tg )
> >>
> >> ICANN-GNSO-NCSG-NPOC Communications Committee Chair (
> http://www.npoc.org/ )
> >> ICANN - Fellow & Alumni ( http://www.icann.org ) - Membre de Internet
> Society (http:// www.isoc.org )
> >> Membre fondateur du RIK-Togo (Réseau Interprofessionnel du Karité au
> Togo)
> >>
> >> ( http://www.globalshea.com ) - Skype : olevie1 FaceBook :
> @olivier.kouami.3 Twitter : #oleviek Lomé – Togo
>



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