Hi,

This is a very good statement, thanks for all the work that went in to
it.  IIRC, it addresses all of the comments made during our previous call.

I agree with Bill that Chatham is a good compromise and will encourage
panelists to speak freely.  And AFAIK, there is nothing preventing a
panelist from saying elsewhere what they said themselves at a meeting under
the Chatham House Rule.  This is helpful if one feels strongly that their
particular constituency's position needs to be known.

Other suggestions:

Add some academic references in a footnote re: group size and effectiveness

Might it help to include examples of "related institutional settings"?
 E.g., there are relatively large Working Groups in the IETF that achieve
consensus, the IGF's MAG is another example that has been mentioned.

I would support including the sentence “It might also be noted that GNSO
registrants pay fees that fund well over 90% of ICANN's activities.”  What
makes it objectionable to some?

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Brenden Kuerbis
Internet Governance Project
http://internetgovernance.org


On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 3:49 AM, William Drake <
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> Hi Robin,
>
> That wasn't my language, CSG asked for it.  I don't actually see it as all
> that problematic though.  Chatham just means the identities of who said what
> are not revealed, not that what was said cannot be revealed.  One could see
> the argument for this, e.g. it depoliticizes things, people don't have to
> carefully mince their words to make sure that reviewer x's comments about
> board/staff/stakeholder y are attributed and thus can lead to ill will,
> lobbying, whatever.  Without this, some biz folks were uncomfortable with my
> saying there should be a two way flow of info with periodic reporting to
> AC/SOs and the ability of AC/SOs to offer inputs.  With no limitations we
> could end up with them demanding a sealed box approach instead.  Consider
> the MAG experience.
>
> If you can't live it regardless let me know ASAP as I guess I'd have to
> send a substitute text for the motion, which might not get seconded or
> passed since it wouldn't be what the drafting team negotiated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> BD
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2010, at 12:51 AM, Robin Gross wrote:
>
> Thanks for sending this draft council letter around.  It is very good
> except I do not agree that the review groups should operate under Chatham
> House Rules on confidentiality.  It would certainly be a step backward for a
> group that is to assess the openness and transparency of ICANN to operate in
> this secret fashion and contrary to ICANN's promises of openness and
> transparency.  Everything else in the letter looks good however.
>
> Thanks,
> Robin
>
>
> On Jan 19, 2010, at 8:15 AM, William Drake wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Please see the attached draft and let me know if you have any comments etc.
>  Otherwise I'll propose a motion tomorrow...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> <Draft GNSO Council response to the draft proposal on the Affirmation
> Reviews Requirements and Implementation Processes.pdf>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *"Gomes, Chuck" <[log in to unmask]>
> *Date: *January 19, 2010 4:58:20 PM GMT+01:00
> *To: *"William Drake" <[log in to unmask]>, "GNSO Council
> List" <[log in to unmask]>
> *Subject: **RE: [council] Draft Council letter on the ARR*
>
> Please forward this to your SGs/Constituencies right away and request
> feedback.  The Council will need to make a decision on whether to submit
> the comments or some revised version of them in our 28 Jan meeting.  If
> anyone wants to make a motion in that regard, motions are needed by
> tomorrow, Wednesday, 20 January.
>
> Chuck
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
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> [mailto:[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>] On
> Behalf Of William Drake
>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:40 AM
>
> To: GNSO Council List
>
> Subject: [council] Draft Council letter on the ARR
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
> Attached please find the drafting team's proposed response to
>
> the draft proposal on the Affirmation Reviews Requirements
>
> and Implementation Processes, for discussion with our
>
> respective SGs and in the Council.
>
>
> Best,
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
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