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No false statements were made. Let me make it clearer for the members: 

With vertical integration, a consumer cannot buy .foo from any other registrar UNLESS THE INTEGRATED PROVIDER CHOOSES TO LET OTHER REGISTRARS DO SO. 

This is incontrovertible; it is the definition of VI. With VI, there is no distinction, no separation between registry and registrar, no equal access to the registry. 

So to use your example, yes, Apple can _choose_ to let other stores sell their products -- but it does not have to. If uit wants to retain a product or products exclusively for distribution in its own store, it can. 

--MM

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Non-Commercial User Constituency [mailto:NCUC-
> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Avri Doria
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:18 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] One or two PDPs?
> 
> On 26 Jan 2010, at 08:14, Milton L Mueller wrote:
> 
> > With vertical integration, a consumer cannot buy .TLD .foo from any
> other registrar.
> 
> this patently false.  Just as in in cross-maketing, other Registrars would
> be able to sell it.
> 
> Just because Apple sells Apple products in Apple stores, does not mean
> others can't sell them as well - and do.
> 
> this has been at the core of the false statement you have been making.
> 
> VI is not the same as exclusive sales.
> 
> a.

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