Hi Maria - no, but great, and i'd be happy to helpf you on this. I think
comments are due this Friday, Dec 13th. Shall we work offlist on some
comments and then share? I suggested to Rafik to raise this idea at the
ncsg policy call later today (which i can't make cos of the timezone).
but very happy to help you with this
Joy
On 10/12/2013 9:19 a.m., Maria Farrell wrote:
> Hi all, Did I say I was going to take the lead..?
>
> Maria
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>
> On 3 December 2013 08:07, William Drake <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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> Hi
>
> NCUC and I believe NPOC met with ATRT and we certainly provided
> feedback, but no I don’t think anyone’s had the bandwidth to write
> something up unfortunately. A couple people said they’d take a
> lead, but…
>
> Bill
>
>
> On Dec 2, 2013, at 8:44 PM, joy <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> wrote:
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>> Hi - just following up to see if any comments were collated at
>> ICANN 48 for input to the ATRT2 review at all?
>> Cheers
>> Joy
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>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: ATRT2 Review comments
>> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 12:08:44 +1300
>> From: joy <[log in to unmask]> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> Reply-To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> Organisation: APC
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
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>>
>> Hi all - for context in relation to the email I just sent :) - I
>> volunteered today to collate suggested points for our NCSG
>> comment to this review.
>> I simply gathered up the following from either list discussion,
>> input from Robin offlist, a very helpful summary on the GNSO
>> council list by Maria Farrel, and our original NCSG comments
>> (which noted positive progress since ATRT1 and expressed concerns
>> about threats to ICANN's multi-stakeholder (MSM), bottom-up,
>> consensus-building model of community participation and
>> decision-making (citing the GAC Beijing communique and the TM
>> clearinghouse as examples) and recommending the review team focus
>> on practical operation of the multi-stakeholder model).
>> Apologies if I am repeating what you know, but as a reminder:
>> Overall on the ATRT2 report: imho it really is quite an
>> incredible document - massive (main report 78 pages, total 233
>> pages) and comprehensive (these two things do not always
>> correlate!) I think it is clear that submissions were listened
>> to and appear to have been well reflected (others may correct us
>> on that). I shared Maria's excellent and rather sobering summary
>> and highlights of conclusions rather than repeat it here.
>> There are new recommendations related to ATRT 1 (such as
>> developing metrics for transparency and accountability, rules on
>> transparency for staff, Board, GAC and SO/AC, proposed
>> protections for whistleblowers) and arising from ATRT2 (eg
>> increasing equitable participation, GAC involvement in PDPs,
>> quite lengthy consideration of time for and accesibility of PDPs
>> and working groups and need for imporvements, and new
>> recommendations on financial accountability and transparency esp
>> critiquing this in light ICANN's status as a not for profit
>> organisation). The section reviewing the WHOIS (72-73) and SSR
>> (p74) are also interesting, critiquing the processes and
>> implemention.
>>
>> Overall, suggestions for the comments on this report are:
>> * welcoming the report and thanking the review team for its work
>> * a recommendation to mandate the multi-stakeholder bottom-up process
>> * a comment about IPC's closed membership list (and this being in
>> contradiction to transparency and accountability principles of
>> the MSM)
>> * reference to the tm+50 process and related developments.
>>
>> Do folks feel able to make any general statements supporting (or
>> not supporting) the recommendations? Any thing missing?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Joy Liddicoat
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