more specifically 'survey on ethical implications of emerging technologies'
http://portal.unesco.org/ci/en/ev.php-URL_ID=24229&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html(and
subsequent publications)

regards,


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Alex Gakuru <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Dear Andrei,
>
> You rightly inject ethics into this conversation.
>
> What fascinates is ICANN institutional data collection through WHOIS (and
> perhaps similarly collection of trademark data) are argued as 'technically'
> necessary for the security and stability of the DNS - yet massive personal
> data collections should be left out of discussions.
>
> Previous work on ethics and or legal issues on the internet has been
> undertaken by UNESCO under Information Ethics re:
> http://www.unesco.org/new/en/communication-and-information/intergovernmental-programmes/information-for-all-programme-ifap/priorities/information-ethics/
>
> regards,
>
> Alex
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Andrei Barburas <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> With all due respect, we can talk about this topic for days and we will
>> not come up with a logical answer; neither in NSA's defense nor against NSA.
>>
>> I am not surprised and I will never be surprised by the fact that
>> governments spy both on their people and other countries as well. What
>> surprises me is that it managed to leak. There will always be a "gutsy"
>> person that will come out and make statements or confirm statements that we
>> already knew.
>>
>> None of you can tell me that they are surprised and/or outraged by the
>> fact that governments spy on their own people. That's what SECRET services
>> do; that's why they were founded and that's their mission. Governments will
>> never have full disclosure of their intelligence activities and/or any
>> other activity that citizen John Doe wants to know about. It's like asking
>> from the government to disclose all the names of the undercover agents in
>> the world, just because that's what a transparent government does.
>>
>> While indeed, there are or should be some sort of limits, not necessarily
>> legal, but ethical, we all know that that does NOT really happen. If
>> ambassadors have immunity, you are telling me that of one the biggest
>> security agencies in the world is not immune to those things?
>>
>> Please bare in mind that I am not attacking or defending NSA's activities
>> and certainly do not want to offend any of you. This is just the opinion of
>> a fellow citizen of the world that knows that if necessary, the government
>> of his country will "spy" on his activities if necessary (if it's not
>> happening already, based on the amount of times I already mentioned "NSA").
>>
>> Have an excellent day ahead!
>>
>>
>>
>> *Andrei Barburas*
>>
>> CRSO/IO
>>
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>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Carlos A. Afonso <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, I did not start this thread... Quitting.
>>>
>>> --c.a.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/07/2013 03:29 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've read the book that is a recollection of stuff from that website.
>>>>
>>>> Glad I've got the kindle version and didn't waste a tree on it reading
>>>> about "assassination from the sky"
>>>>
>>>> On a similar subject you can read
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Wired-War-Robotics-Revolution-Conflict-ebookwhich
>>>> still is a little bit sensationalist but became a NYT best seller.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, I don't understand what point are you trying to make and IMHO
>>>> totally out of context from ICANN and NCUC ...
>>>>
>>>> -J
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Carlos A. Afonso <[log in to unmask]
>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Here is some non-fiction which is far from the movies:
>>>>
>>>>     http://www.tomdispatch.com/__books/175550/
>>>>
>>>>     <http://www.tomdispatch.com/books/175550/>
>>>>
>>>>     --c.a.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 11/07/2013 11:37 AM, Jorge Amodio wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Imagination can't be driven by those individuals, they are just
>>>>         disclosing leaked and/or stole information, and science fiction
>>>>         is only
>>>>         for the movies.
>>>>
>>>>         -J
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Rudi Rusdiah <
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>         <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>         <mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>              Cant imagine how powerful is Big Brother and Big Data if
>>>>         there is no
>>>>              Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, WikiLeaks...
>>>>
>>>>              next... sending the clown... eh the drone :-)
>>>>
>>>>              i think Orwell was right :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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