Ayden,
Thank you for the changes.
Especially the last one. I appreciate your efforts as author as well as
the efforts of Stephanie to find a consensus point between our views.
avri
On 24-Mar-17 17:35, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
> Avri,
>
> Thank you for your feedback on the public comment, which as you are
> aware is still being edited. Of the 40 revisions you requested
> yesterday, 37 were accepted unchallenged. And, as we speak,
> I understand Stephanie is working hard to revise paragraph #21 so that
> it will hopefully be something we are all somewhat comfortable with.
> Anyway, thanks for reading the comment so closely and sharing your
> perspective.
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden
>
> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 9:22 pm, avri doria <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> Whereas I think it is a pity that the document still contains a line
>> that serves no purpose other than to stand as an insult to At-Large and
>> the ALAC. The first line of 21 states:
>>
>> " *We are hesitant to comment on the comparison of results between ALAC
>> and the NCSG, particularly because of the disparity in resources
>> allocated by ICANN, and the different missions. However, we do feel that
>> At-Large could deliver measurably better advice with significantly fewer
>> resources."*
>>
>> **1. comparisons between the budget for one of the SOAC and one of the
>> subcomponents of a SOAC makes no sense.**
>>
>> **2. in what way could this be verified. It is a boastful claim that
>> cannot be verified.**
>>
>> **3. these are insulting words that serve no meaningful purpose.**
>>
>> ****
>>
>> **I think it would be "****inexcusable for NCSG " to send something out
>> with this sentence still in it.**
>>
>> ****
>>
>> **avri **
>>
>>
>> On 24-Mar-17 17:13, Martin Pablo Silva Valent wrote:
>> > +1 on this
>> >
>> > On 24 Mar 2017 19:25, "Mueller, Milton L" <[log in to unmask]
>> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I think you’ve done a great job shepherding this statement and I
>> > support it.
>> >
>> > It would be inexcusable for NCSG not to be able to weigh in with
>> > comments on this.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --MM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > *From:*NCSG-Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]
>> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>] *On Behalf Of *Ayden Férdeline
>> > *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 7:22 PM
>> > *To:* [log in to unmask]
>> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> > *Subject:* Re: [DRAFT] NCSG Statement on the ALAC Review
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I didn't realise I wrote to the NCSG-Discuss list earlier. What is
>> > with my emailing today? (Well a mobile device...)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks for these comments, Stefi, and for reading the blog post.
>> > For now my priority is to continue editing the Statement, revising
>> > it to accommodate some very legitimate points which have been
>> > made, and then coming back to the PC list to see who is
>> > comfortable endorsing it. I would hope an endorsement was
>> > forthcoming but I know that outcome is not a forgone conclusion,
>> > and that is understandable (if disappointing).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Best wishes,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Ayden Férdeline
>> >
>> > Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:12 pm, Milan, Stefania
>> > <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear Ayden, thanks for taking care of this. I have read and
>> > enjoyed your blog post.
>> > I have not read the report in question, and I feel a have very
>> > little ground to move any objection--so I feel also
>> > uncomfortable at supporting it unless 2/3 of the PC members
>> > approve. Does it make sense?
>> > Anyhow thanks for your great great work! Stefania
>> > ps and good luck with fixing laptop!!
>> > ________________________________________
>> > Da: NCSG-Discuss <[log in to unmask]
>> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> per conto di Ayden
>> > Férdeline <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> > Inviato: giovedì 23 marzo 2017 13.12.43
>> > A: [log in to unmask]
>> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> > Oggetto: Re: [DRAFT] NCSG Statement on the ALAC Review
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > We need to get something out by tomorrow, as that is the
>> > deadline. I am currently laptopless with my MacBook getting
>> > its battery replaced today, so I'm stuck making edits through
>> > Google Docs on my iPhone :/ That said, I'll be working on a
>> > second draft today and refining a few of the points, as I'm
>> > not happy with the document as it stands. I have published a
>> > blog post on the Report itself which basically sums up where I
>> > stand on the Review:
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.internetgovernance.org/2017/03/23/re-thinking-icanns-at-large-community/
>>
>> >
>> <http://www.internetgovernance.org/2017/03/23/re-thinking-icanns-at-large-community/>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > I hope this is useful.
>> >
>> > Best wishes,
>> >
>> > Ayden
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 12:08 pm, Martin Pablo Silva Valent
>> > <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]
>> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]:[log in to unmask]>>>
>> > wrote:
>> > Ayden, any deadline or idea towards when it will, if,
>> > submitted? I am travelling this week.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Martin
>> >
>> > On 21 Mar 2017 15:52, "Ayden Férdeline"
>> > <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]
>> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]:[log in to unmask]>>>
>> > wrote:
>> > Greetings all,
>> >
>> > I have drafted up on Google
>> >
>> Docs<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZgdafZs4KBENsb-Kl9GO0l_Bh4gYdQd6F-ORpZPr27s/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> >
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZgdafZs4KBENsb-Kl9GO0l_Bh4gYdQd6F-ORpZPr27s/edit?usp=sharing>>
>>
>> > some comments on behalf of the NCSG regarding the Review of
>> > the At-Large community. This is a really rough draft, and I'd
>> > welcome your feedback on what arguments should be refined,
>> > what I might have missed, or what we might want to remain
>> > silent on. I'm not happy with it at the moment, but I figured
>> > it would be better to get some words down onto paper, and we
>> > can refine this together... so please take a read of the
>> > proposed statement
>> >
>> here<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZgdafZs4KBENsb-Kl9GO0l_Bh4gYdQd6F-ORpZPr27s/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> >
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZgdafZs4KBENsb-Kl9GO0l_Bh4gYdQd6F-ORpZPr27s/edit?usp=sharing>>,
>>
>> > with the understanding that it's definitely a
>> > work-in-progress. And please share your thoughts, either in
>> > the document itself or on this mailing list!
>> >
>> > Comments are due in three days, so we don't have too long to
>> > get this together unfortunately. You can read the draft report
>> >
>> here<https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/atlarge-review-draft-report-31jan17-en.pdf
>>
>> >
>> <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/atlarge-review-draft-report-31jan17-en.pdf>>
>>
>> > (PDF link) if you haven't seen it already.
>> >
>> > A friendly note to those ALAC members who read the NCSG
>> > mailing list: this statement is a work-in-progress, it has not
>> > been endorsed yet by the NCSG Policy Committee, and it will
>> > likely change between now and the time it is submitted (if it
>> > is submitted).
>> >
>> > Best wishes,
>> >
>> > Ayden Férdeline
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>> >
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