Hi James,
That was not any kind of official position, but something I wrote
offlist when Monika asked about candidates and she then accidentally
copied it to the list.
I wrote it in a hurry on the road, without time to check my emails or
notes and misremembered, apologies for that, but I was going to (and
indeed still am going to) check and double-check before officially
giving the volunteers' names to the EC.
Tapani
On Feb 19 20:30, James Gannon ([log in to unmask]) wrote:
> https://lists.ncsg.is/pipermail/ncsg-ec/2017-February/000041.html
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>
> "'As of now the only candidate we have besides Avri and Martin is Carlos
> Gutierrez. (I just realized he only wrote to me, not to the list.)
>
> Tatiana also told me when I asked that she might be available if Avri
> pulls out for some reason but not otherwise, and she did not reply to
> my call on the list.’"
>
>
> Shared without comment.
>
>
>
>
> On 19/02/2017, 20:26, "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" <[log in to unmask] on behalf of [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> >Dear Tatiana, all,
> >
> >Volunteering offlist to me was indeed just fine. I'd intended to wait
> >until the deadline I gave was over (Wednesday) and then send the list
> >of candidates to the EC. Now that the cat is out of the bag anyway,
> >however, I'll note who's volunteered so far, in order to make sure I
> >haven't missed anyone and to let others who may be consireding it a
> >chance to jump in:
> >
> >Avri Doria
> >Martin Silva Valent
> >Carlos Gutierrez
> >Tatiana Tropina
> >
> >If you have volunteered but are not on that list I've missed you:
> >please let me know ASAP. And if you aren't, there's still time.
> >Please try to make it by noon UTC Wednesday.
> >
> >Also, as others have noted this is not an election but an appointment
> >by the EC, and I did not intend to ask for expressions of support on
> >the list. Nonetheless I don't see the discussion on the list as
> >harmful either -- it may even provide useful extra information for the
> >EC to consider when making its decision. We won't be counting mere
> >expressions of support though, that would obviously be unfair to those
> >who volunteered offlist.
> >
> >Tapani
> >
> >
> >On Feb 19 16:40, Tatiana Tropina ([log in to unmask]) wrote:
> >
> >> Dear all,
> >> I am the one 4 candidates who applied by sending an email directly to
> >> Tapani, as his email suggested to let *him* know as soon as possible so I
> >> thought volunteering off-list is fine. I also wanted to avoid long threads
> >> of plus 1s, as it usually happens. Sorry for any confusion - I answered to
> >> Tapani directly that I can volunteer right after he sent the initial email
> >> to the list, and I couldn't foresee how this would develop.
> >> Warm regards
> >> Tatiana Tropina
> >>
> >> On 19 February 2017 at 16:35, avri <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > Not at all your fault. I think some were sent to Tapani directly as his
> >> > original note suggested. It was probably me who first erred by sending it
> >> > to the list - though in fairness to me, he had suggested in conversation
> >> > that this is what I should do.
> >> >
> >> > Avri
> >> >
> >> > Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> >> >
> >> > -------- Original message --------
> >> > From: Nadira Alaraj <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > Date: 2/19/17 15:14 (GMT+00:00)
> >> > To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > Cc: [log in to unmask]
> >> > Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Call for volunteers: alternate councillor
> >> >
> >> > Thanks Avri, for bringing my attention to the 4 candidates, having >20
> >> > emails and +1 emails, sure made me skip some emails.
> >> > I apologize for the candidates, whom I missed their emails.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 5:04 PM, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> I very much appreciate the support I have gotten. and hope I will be
> >> >> chosen for more council service.
> >> >>
> >> >> However, I would like to point out that there are currently 4 candidates
> >> >> as far as I know and the call is still open for several more days.
> >> >>
> >> >> As far as process, we sort of do have one, the NCSG EC, once all
> >> >> candidates are in at the end of the week's call. (I think Tapani gave a
> >> >> week) decides what to do. They have the full range of freedom given by the
> >> >> GNSO operating procedures.
> >> >>
> >> >> While we could define more detailed processes, I think given the variety
> >> >> of possible exigent circumstances, it is best to leave this open and up to
> >> >> the elected NCSG EC.
> >> >>
> >> >> Avri
> >> >>
> >> >> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> >> >>
> >> >> -------- Original message --------
> >> >> From: Nadira Alaraj <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> Date: 2/19/17 14:29 (GMT+00:00)
> >> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> >> Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Call for volunteers: alternate councillor
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks Tapani,
> >> >> I would like to share my observation about email threads, that gets too
> >> >> much responses when it comes to leadership positions. Not only in the NCUC,
> >> >> but in many ICANN working groups. I think it is due to lack of any
> >> >> procedures for such cases.
> >> >>
> >> >> I take this opportunity, to call upon the task-force whom they are
> >> >> working on NCUC procedures, to consider this case.
> >> >>
> >> >> As for my opinion on the alternate councillor and since it is a short
> >> >> period, it could be divided among Avri and Martin. So one will resume
> >> >> during the period of ICANN 58 and soon to be switched to another for ICANN
> >> >> 59.
> >> >>
> >> >> I think this will be a compromise solution since there are not written
> >> >> rules.
> >> >>
> >> >> Best wishes,
> >> >> Nadira ALARAJ
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Tapani Tarvainen <
> >> >> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Dear all,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> As Amr Elsadr resigned from the council upon joining the staff, the
> >> >>> NCSG Executive Committee needs to appoint a temporary alternate to
> >> >>> replace him.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If you are interested in the job, please let me know as soon as
> >> >>> possible, but no later than Wednesday February 22 (one week from now).
> >> >>> The appointment is on the agenda of EC meeting on February 24, and we'd
> >> >>> want to have list of names at least two days in advance so we'll have
> >> >>> time to review them.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Please explain why you think you'd be good for the task and confirm
> >> >>> you could commit to the time it takes. Jumping in to the council
> >> >>> mid-term is not easy, so experience is one key criteria for the EC in
> >> >>> considering the appointment.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The term extends until ICANN60 in the fall in Abu Dhabi, although the
> >> >>> appointment can be made for a shorter time if the EC so chooses.
> >> >>> If this makes a difference for you, for example if you'd only be able
> >> >>> to do shorter time, or if you would not be interested in a shorter
> >> >>> appointment, let us know that, too.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thank you,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Tapani Tarvainen
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