Great !
Il prefer when its finished like this.
Warm regards to all.
-Olévé-$
2016-06-15 14:18 GMT+00:00 Arsène Tungali <[log in to unmask]>:
> Thanks Ayden,
>
> I appreciate your kindness and willingness to see things move forward.
> Also thanks for having elaborated more on your intentions and comments. It
> is more clear to me.
>
> Let's keep in touch,
> A
>
> ------------------------
> **Arsène Tungali**
> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
> <http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <http://www.smart-serv.info>*, *Mabingwa Forum
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>
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>
> Blogger <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN Fellow
> <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-07-18-en>. The
> HuffingtonPost UK
> <http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/liza-bel/drc_b_8958150.html>
>
> 2016-06-15 16:10 GMT+02:00 Ayden Férdeline <[log in to unmask]>:
>
>> Hi Arsène,
>>
>> Of course this can be flagged if that is the view of the community. I was
>> speaking in my personal capacity when I suggested it was not helpful to
>> raise this issue in our response to this consultation exercise – it is also
>> why I noted that I will be responding to this consultation individually,
>> because I am aware that my views on the Fellowship programme probably do
>> not align with those of everyone in the NCSG.
>>
>> But to your question, my rationale here is that it is very easy to ask
>> for too much and not to recognise everything we have gained along the way.
>> The proposed changes to the Fellowship programme go above and beyond what
>> most would have reasonably asked for. We now have something on the table
>> that is goal-driven and merit-based. It is also more inclusive, on every
>> metric, than its predecessor.
>>
>> It is my view that we should thank ICANN staff for seeking to redesign
>> the Fellowship programme so to advance the goals of ICANN’s unique,
>> participatory multistakeholder approach to governance. Of course this is
>> not a substitution for all the advocacy and engagement work that ICANN
>> staff do around the world, which will and should continue, but it’s an
>> excellent evolution.
>>
>> The strongest arguments we can make, in any consultation response we
>> write, are those supported by evidence. If we have mechanisms through which
>> we can eliminate linguistic hurdles, let’s make them known to ICANN staff.
>> But machine translation is not there yet. And how much would human
>> translation / simultaneous interpretation into seven languages cost? I
>> haven’t priced it but I’m willing to guess it’s expensive.
>>
>> I’m sorry if you found my comments arrogant. That wasn’t my intention.
>> I’m just not a huge fan of asking for blank cheques to be written, and I
>> like to give credit where credit is due.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Ayden
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 2:54 PM, Arsène Tungali [log in to unmask]
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ayden,
>>>
>>> You have spoken some true reality and I pretty much agree with the
>>> challenges the world have in so many other platforms or organizations
>>> related to language. This is not only about ICANN but for so many other
>>> organizations dealing with ICT Policy, etc. And I am glad you presented
>>> some innovative ways people like us are relying on to better participate or
>>> contribute to ICANN's work.
>>>
>>> But i don't like the way you point or present your arguments, the way
>>> you explain those challenges, I am tempted to say, in an arrogant way (not
>>> to be taken parsonal but due to language barrier, i couldn't find a better
>>> word :) ), which is not really helpful at all.
>>>
>>> I also don't know why you think the NCSG should not point this reality
>>> if they wish to make comments. We represent CS interest and this can be
>>> considered as a barrier to CS participation to ICANN's work.
>>>
>>> ------------------------
>>> **Arsène Tungali**
>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
>>> <http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <http://www.smart-serv.info>*, *Mabingwa
>>> Forum <http://www.mabingwa-forum.com>*
>>> Tel: +243 993810967
>>> GPG: 523644A0
>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
>>>
>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
>>> <http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html>
>>> (YALI) - ISOC IGF Ambassador
>>> <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/2015Ambassadors>
>>> <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/2015Ambassadors>-
>>>
>>> Blogger <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN Fellow
>>> <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-07-18-en>. The
>>> HuffingtonPost UK
>>> <http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/liza-bel/drc_b_8958150.html>
>>>
>>> 2016-06-15 15:37 GMT+02:00 Ayden Férdeline <[log in to unmask]>:
>>>
>>> It’s not that I disagree with you, Arsène – because I don’t, and I
>>> actually identified this as a barrier to participation in my earlier email
>>> – but I don’t think it is helpful to flag this obstacle if the NCSG
>>> responds to the consultation. My feeling is that this is a known hurdle
>>> which cannot easily be addressed until machine translation advances to a
>>> satisfactory standard. This is a painful reality because linguistic
>>> diversity is very important. But like it or not we are constrained by
>>> resources and so we need a common language. English has become the lingua
>>> franca of Internet policy; maybe it shouldn’t be, maybe that should be
>>> Portuguese or French another tongue, but it is. So in theory we could keep
>>> ICANN’s language services team very busy translating all the traffic on the
>>> fellowship mailing lists and Facebook groups, helping break down barriers
>>> to participation, but given ICANN’s website is barely translated into
>>> languages other than English, in practice I think we need to make better
>>> use of their time. I think it’s quite reasonable to expect that all
>>> public-facing documents are translated by ICANN into the seven official
>>> languages. Maybe more face-to-face sessions and working group calls should
>>> have simultaneous interpretation too. And I would like all sessions to have
>>> live captioning. But I respectfully submit that this is not a discussion
>>> for the renewed focus of the Fellowship programme.
>>>
>>> - Ayden
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 2:15 PM, Mamadou LO [log in to unmask] wrote:
>>>
>>> +1 Arsene TUNGALI
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *===================================================================
>>> Mamadou LO*
>>> Chef du Département Communication et Information Documentaire
>>> Head of Communication and Information Department
>>> Crédit Agricole Sénégal
>>> Tel : 221 77 645 59 57
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *De :* NCSG-Discuss <[log in to unmask]> de la part de
>>> Arsène Tungali <[log in to unmask]>
>>> *Envoyé :* mercredi 15 juin 2016 13:06
>>> *À :* [log in to unmask]
>>> *Objet :* Re: ICANN Fellowship Program Application Process Review
>>>
>>> Just a quick reaction,
>>>
>>> Fellows shouldn't be expected to speak English to be selected because
>>> ICANN meetings work with all UN languages (though English is their working
>>> language). It is still indeed a barrier because the application form is in
>>> English and I remember having serious issues to fill it some time ago (as a
>>> native French speaker).
>>>
>>> I think this needs to be looked into very seriously to ensure inclusion
>>> and diversity
>>>
>>> ------------------------
>>> **Arsène Tungali**
>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
>>> <http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <http://www.smart-serv.info>*, *Mabingwa
>>> Forum <http://www.mabingwa-forum.com>*
>>> Tel: +243 993810967
>>> GPG: 523644A0
>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
>>>
>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
>>> <http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html>
>>> (YALI) - ISOC IGF Ambassador
>>> <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/2015Ambassadors>
>>> <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/2015Ambassadors>-
>>>
>>> Blogger <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN Fellow
>>> <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-07-18-en>. The
>>> HuffingtonPost UK
>>> <http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/liza-bel/drc_b_8958150.html>
>>>
>>> 2016-06-15 14:06 GMT+02:00 Ayden Férdeline <[log in to unmask]>:
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing this, Mamadou. Mama J has proposed some very sensible
>>> changes to the Fellowship programme here. I will review the supporting
>>> documents more closely over the coming weeks and respond to the
>>> consultation activity in my personal capacity, but I would hope that this
>>> renewed mandate and focus of the Fellowship programme is something we as
>>> the NCSG are able to support. From a cursory glance at the documents, I'm
>>> glad to see that we now acknowledge that there are factors other than
>>> nationality which contribute to inequality — so trying to bring voices in
>>> from women, indigenous people, the LGBT community, and those with
>>> disabilities is a push we need. I would also suggest that linguistic
>>> barriers remain in this proposal (I believe Fellows must speak English to
>>> participate?), but that's a much harder obstacle to overcome and I
>>> certainly don't have any solutions. The proposed changes to the Fellowship
>>> programme will see it being more goal-driven and merit-based: it has my
>>> support.
>>>
>>> - Ayden
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 12:52 PM, Mamadou LO [log in to unmask] wrote:
>>>
>>> FYI
>>>
>>> Mamadou
>>>
>>> Envoyé depuis mon smartphone Samsung Galaxy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2016 3:15 AM
>>> *Subject:* ICANN News Alert -- ICANN Fellowship Program Application
>>> Process Review
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: ICANN] <http://www.icann.org/>
>>> News Alert
>>>
>>> https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-06-14-en
>>> ------------------------------
>>> ICANN Fellowship Program Application Process Review
>>>
>>> 14 June 2016
>>>
>>> *Open Date:*
>>>
>>> 14 June 2016
>>>
>>> *Close Date:*
>>>
>>> 29 July 2016
>>>
>>> *Originating Organization:*
>>>
>>> Development and Public Responsibility Department
>>>
>>> *Categories/Tags:*
>>>
>>> Reviews/Improvements
>>>
>>> *Brief Overview:*
>>>
>>> Leading up to the ten-year anniversary of ICANN's Fellowship program,
>>> the organization has evaluated this successful initiative in order to
>>> address the needs of the global community and provide appropriate
>>> enhancements to ensure that the program will continue to thrive while
>>> addressing today's ICANN and its capacity-building needs. In this regard,
>>> the ICANN staff have identified areas of improvement, mainly to the
>>> language used to describe Applicant Selection Criteria and the application
>>> assessment process. In doing so, ICANN staff is looking to ensure that the
>>> Fellowship selection process remains accountable, transparent, and
>>> independent while continuing to strengthen the ICANN Multistakeholder Model.
>>>
>>> *Link:*
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fellowship-application-process-review-2016-06-14-en
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ayden Férdeline
>>> Statement of Interest
>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Ayden+Férdeline+SOI>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ayden Férdeline
>>> Statement of Interest
>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Ayden+Férdeline+SOI>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Ayden Férdeline
>> Statement of Interest
>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Ayden+Férdeline+SOI>
>>
>
>
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