Those are really good points, Cintra. Wish you could have been on the call.
Can NPOC and perhaps ALAC (and NCSG) collaborate on a strong statement with
all the factors. There were some good points made on the call today.
xx
dd
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Cintra Sooknanan <[log in to unmask]
> wrote:
> Sorry to miss the call today.
>
> As Marie-laure mentioned the EWG did have a session with NPOC in Durban.
> At that meeting I raised two issues relating to the jurisdictional facets
> of personal data (proposed to be moved to and reposed in the database):
> - the lack of user choice on the jurisdiction that their personal data is
> held (as they may not even be aware of the location of the database or
> applicable data protection laws)
> - the inability of the user to recourse for misuse of or choice over the
> level of protection of their data (as the data is held by a third party,
> likely away from the jurisdiction of their local courts or laws, and
> require prohibitively expensive costs and measures to be taken to
> facilitate the user's choice).
>
> I think it is also important that we make the point that an independent
> database does not circumvent the Registrar's duty to obtain and maintain
> accurate records but rather acts as a redundancy to this system.
>
> It is absolutely crucial that we weigh in the impact of the EWG proposals
> from different angles and I welcome further discussion on and off list.
>
> Regards
>
> Cintra Sooknanan
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Olivier Kouami <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I agree with most you that ICANN is an american-oriented organization;
>> I'm adding.
>> This matter has to change due to the internationalization process?
>> I hope ... on day ... :-)
>> cheers !
>> -Olevie-
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/8/6 Magaly Pazello <[log in to unmask]>
>>
>>> +1 Rudi...
>>> ICANN is an english-oriented organization...
>>> Magaly
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Rudi Vansnick <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Just came back from Berlin, I jumped immediately on my laptop and
>>> connected
>>> > to the call.
>>> > This type of call needs another context as we know most of the
>>> intervenants
>>> > are native English speakers and forget non-native are on the call. My
>>> > concern is strait forward : shouldn't the end-user being the one
>>> deciding
>>> > what is made publicly available and at the other hand : is it ICANN's
>>> > mandate to step into the validation of personal data usage ?
>>> >
>>> > My quick impression
>>> >
>>> > Rudi Vansnick
>>> >
>>> > Op 6-aug.-2013, om 16:00 heeft Marie-laure Lemineur <
>>> [log in to unmask]>
>>> > het volgende geschreven:
>>> >
>>> > Hello,
>>> >
>>> > NPOC already met with the EWG in Durban and expressed its concerns
>>> about
>>> > specific aspects. But maybe some of our members will participate to the
>>> > call. Personally, I will attend the Thick Whois WG weekly call
>>> scheduled
>>> > right now at the same time as the EWG one.
>>> >
>>> > Good luck with the call!
>>> >
>>> > Marie-laure
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my iPad
>>> >
>>> > On 06/08/2013, at 07:44, Robin Gross <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Call starts in 15 minutes with EWG. All are encouraged to join.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Aug 5, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Robin Gross wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Reminder: Call set for Tuesday 6 August 2013 at 14:00 - 15:00 UTC.
>>> >
>>> > NCSG members are invited to meet with members of ICANN's Expert Working
>>> > Group (EWG) on Directory Services (aka whois) to discuss the group's
>>> work
>>> > including its final report to the board. This is the group ICANN staff
>>> > pulled together to "solve" the whois problem. All NCSG members are
>>> welcome
>>> > and encouraged to participate in the call and ask questions of the EWG
>>> > members and give them your comments on the report. So please read the
>>> > report and participate in the call. Call details are below. Thank
>>> you! -
>>> > Robin
>>> >
>>> > EWG Durban Public Report:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/41892060/EWG-Durban-Public-Final.pdf
>>> >
>>> > Begin forwarded message:
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