Hi !
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Cheers !
-Olévié-
2015-04-09 7:57 GMT+00:00 William Drake <[log in to unmask]>:
> Hi
>
> New piece by Wolfgang on NMI, FYI
> http://www.circleid.com/posts/print/20150408_connecting_computers_to_connecting_stakeholders_stanford_hosts_nmi/
>
> Bill
>
> On Apr 7, 2015, at 8:42 AM, William Drake <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Hi Jeremy
>
> Very good to see you here.
>
> On Apr 6, 2015, at 6:37 PM, Jeremy Malcolm <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> On Apr 5, 2015, at 2:06 AM, William Drake <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, as I've said, Fadi confused the situation for a long time by making
> loose comments about it providing policy solutions, which sounded to some
> like he meant it it be a negotiation space that agrees stuff. I spent a
> half a year telling him he needed to stop this, and inter alia successfully
> insisted that the staff take off the website loose talk drawn from the
> Ilves process about solutions meaning policy proposals, draft laws and
> regs, etc. Drove me nuts. But of course he doesn't readily take his cues
> from troublesome CS types and didn't really take recalibration to heart
> until it became clear business and tech comm were not going to let that fly
> and key governments were mightily unenthused as well. So at the meeting
> last week he was totally focused on making sure the language adopted was
> clear NMI doesn't do policy, doesn't negotiation, and doesn't do dialogues,
> which is for IGF. Better late than never.
>
>
> So, where do we go to develop solutions - policy proposals, draft laws and
> regulations, etc? Still not the IGF, evidently.
>
>
> Valid question with no answer. This was something we kind of disagreed on
> back at the aborted launch meeting at WEF last August when you were saying,
> if I recall correctly, that NMI should indeed have some normative role e.g.
> with respect to elaborating and specifying the NM principles. I understand
> the concern about the lack of a mechanism for such work, but felt from the
> start that the errors in roll out and framing of NMI and the decision to
> link in WEF were inevitably going to generate a lot of backlash, lack of
> buy in and end of the world hysteria from key actors, so any effort to
> arrogate to NMI such a role was going to be radioactive and sink the thing
> before it left port. I think the subsequent evolution vindicates this
> view. Given the foundational original sins, the only way this was going to
> get any acceptance was to right size it as an operational mechanism to
> facilitate work by others consistent with the NM statement (and even this
> has continued to draw misdirected fire on the grounds it must secretly be a
> scheme to take decision making offline and out of bottom up, which some of
> Fadi's lingering representations fed into).
>
> So the lack of a policymaking mechanism remains, and we will probably hear
> about it at the UNGA in December as a rationale to rebirth 'enhanced
> cooperation' in the form of some UN uber-solution. It'll be interesting to
> see what has to be offered to buy off the G77 and China and successfully
> reach an intergovernmental deal. Hopefully they won't choose to make IGF
> renewal a bargaining chit, but one suspects they'll try. Maybe we'll end
> up having to live with an UNCTAD/CSTD program that can study and make recs;
> they're already increasingly active on global e-commerce anyway. Wouldn't
> be the worst thing, given the old saw that the acronym means Under No
> Circumstances Take Any Decisions. It'd be great if the IGF could evolve to
> provide a convincing alternative, as you argued for in your book chapter,
> but I don't see it either. The whole discussion of intersessional work has
> been redirected to best practice forums on, e.g.
>
>
> - Regulation and mitigation of unwanted communications
> <http://mail.intgovforum.org/mailman/listinfo/bp_spam_intgovforum.org>:
> Markus Kummer
> - Establishing and supporting Computer Security Incident Response
> Teams (CSIRTs)
> <http://mail.intgovforum.org/mailman/listinfo/bp_certs_intgovforum.org>:
> Markus Kummer
> - Developing meaningful multistakeholder participation mechanisms
> <http://mail.intgovforum.org/mailman/listinfo/bp_multistakeholder_intgovforum.org>:
> Avri Doria
> - Practices to countering abuse against women online
> <http://mail.intgovforum.org/mailman/listinfo/bp_counteringabuse_intgovforum.org>:
> Jac Kee and Subi Chatuvedi
> - IPv6
> <http://mail.intgovforum.org/mailman/listinfo/bp_ipv6_intgovforum.org>:
> Izumi Okutani
> - IXPs
> <http://mail.intgovforum.org/mailman/listinfo/bp_ixps_intgovforum.org>:
> Desirée Zachariah
> -
>
> Which could be a start, but obviously short of what you'd like. It'd have
> been good if we could have gotten more CS engagement on the intersessional
> stuff at the foundational moment, but messages to Best Bits etc. generated
> little interest. CS remains all over the place and hence nowhere on this,
> methinks; I see no organized desire to take the IGF seriously as a policy
> platform consistent with the TA mandate. People have moved on.
>
>
> Also, FWIW, I'm sure you'll agree that the narrowing of the mission that
> you're setting out here remains subject to comment during the current
> public consultation on the terms of reference.
>
>
> Sure, and if you'd like to comment on the ToR to the effect that it lacks
> suitable ambition and a needed policy role, have at it. Fadi might pleased
> that someone finally 'gets it.'
>
> Best
>
> Bill
>
>
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