All,
sorry for the typos in my previous email :) of course I meant ICANN *staff*,
not stuff :) seems that my phone just got mad with autocorrect and I better
to proofread emails before pressing the "send" button :)
Cheers
Tanya

On 29 February 2016 at 11:39, Tatiana Tropina <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Hi all,
> I do agree with Niels. We are supposed to be a "vocal" point on HR but
> without a broader engagement of the community and a proper and constructive
> communications with ICANN staff and ICANN board our "voices" will be
> marginalised. Many misunderstanding during the HR fights CCWG could have
> been avoided if there were a proper communication with the board (no, I am
> not a stupid optimist, this is reality, it took time to convince the board
> but we made it. We could have made it earlier if there were a proper
> engagement).
> One of the priorities for addressing human rights issues in WS2 will be,
> in my opinion, to establish the constructive dialogue with the ICANN
> board/stuff as early as possible to avoid the last-minute fights and
> unhappy compromises.
> Cheers
> Tanya
>
>
> On 29 February 2016 at 11:17, Niels ten Oever <[log in to unmask]
> > wrote:
>
>> But we want someone in staff who is working on this, right? That is what
>> the previous report of the CCWP HR was about [0]. This cannot and should
>> not be done either ONLY by the board, ONLY by staff, or ONLY by the
>> community.
>>
>> Whereas we've been having success on board engagement (after the
>> questions of last time), we will need to work more with staff,
>> henceforth this question.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Niels
>>
>> [0] http://icannhumanrights.net
>>
>>
>> On 02/29/2016 04:39 AM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>> > +1
>> > this would be my worst nightmare....
>> > Stephanie Perrin
>> > On 2016-02-28 22:32, Mueller, Milton L wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> - Will there be dedicated ICANN staff working on the development of a
>> >>> human
>> >>> rights policy who could also function as a vocal point on human
>> rights?
>> >> Be careful with this. WE are supposed to be the vocal point on human
>> >> rights, don't let that function be taken over by an ICANN staff person.
>> >>
>>
>> --
>> Niels ten Oever
>> Head of Digital
>>
>> Article 19
>> www.article19.org
>>
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