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Stephanie Perrin <[log in to unmask]>
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Thanks Seun....I am betting insurance companies and the govt are going 
to get you to connect your vehicle, wont be an option.  I realize this 
is somewhat outside the ambit of this group.  I asked the question at a 
security meeting in Singapore and got the "you just dont get it lady" 
brush off...but a friend said later that indeed there was a question 
(beyond the obvious security issues with these networked objects) of how 
devices were going to be addresssed.  And it is certainly a human rights 
question if we auction off the domains for networked devices to a 
monopoly provider and prevent individuals from having any control, 
although as a haggard old privacy advocate I can certainly attest to the 
truth of what Timothy just posted.  People on the whole are not 
able/eager to assert control.
So while I try to stay out of watching the new gTLD auctions, plate 
already being overloaded, does anyone know if this is happening yet?
cheers SP

On 2015-03-27 4:28, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
>
> Hi Stephanie,
>
> Replying to your question (re: who owns domain of your car), first I 
> like to say there is practically no way your Honda will be accessible 
> by domain without the domain being added in the first place so you 
> will be making an informed decision by adding the domain. However if 
> there arise a technology that hard-codes domain on your Honda, you 
> will also need to make decision to connect device on the network with 
> an IP address before the domain can be reachable publicly.
> So the question would be, how informed will users be by then. I don't 
> really think domain registration would be a big concern by then.
>
> Cheers!
>
> sent from Google nexus 4
> kindly excuse brevity and typos.
>
> On 27 Mar 2015 06:47, "Stephanie Perrin" 
> <[log in to unmask] 
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
>     I certainly am.  I am curious to know whether domains are going to
>     be involved, and if so who will register them (i.e. will Steph's
>     Honda, and all the tattle tale devices in it be accessible on a
>     domain, and if so who owns the domain....Honda, my insurance
>     company, the device companies, the apps, or me???)
>     SP
>
>     On 2015-03-27 0:37, James Gannon wrote:
>
>         I do some work and research in this area, if someone reminds
>         me next week after Im back from the CWG F2F i can do up some
>         info on this for the group if anyone is interested?
>
>         On 27 Mar 2015, at 02:59, Sam Lanfranco <[log in to unmask]
>         <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
>             Stephanie,
>
>             This has been on the agenda and worried about for some
>             time. The "connected-car" is but one data source in the
>             Internet of Things (IoT). Everything written in this piece
>             will apply to your IoT stove, frig, children's coat,
>             garage door, furnace, light switch....you name it. One
>             approach is to say all data is privately owned and that
>             the data miners have to negotiate for what they have
>             access to within the privately owned data.
>
>             Sam L.
>
>
>             On 26/03/2015 4:59 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>
>                 Folks interested in privacy may find this report on
>                 the connected car interesting, if alarming.  The
>                 report was written by Philippa Lawson, a well known
>                 Canadian privacy lawyer who was for several years
>                 heading up CIPPIC in Ottawa.  This privacy research
>                 was funded under the Canadian Privacy Commissioner's
>                 grants and contributions program.
>                 https://fipa.bc.ca/connected-car/
>                 Stephanie Perrin
>
>
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>             ------------------------------------------------
>             Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
>             Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
>             email: [log in to unmask]   Skype: slanfranco
>             blog: http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com
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