Dear Judith,
*Just to clarify: I didnt state that we shouldn't be talking about
wars/conflicts or politics.* I just suggested a separation amongst those
since the sustainability conversation might be something we might need to
present a position soon, depending on how the discussion goes.
At the opportunity, I would also like to express that I am personally upset
and uncomfortable by how the ICANN community has been expressing themselves
in light of the palestinian/Israel situation versus how much mobilization
we have seen in the Ukrainian invasion case. Neither do I agree on the
removal of the mural w/ the palestinian flag that was done during ICANN78.
As much as I understand folks that claim that we can be "Neutral" and the
technical nature of the discussions we promote within ICANN, I dont really
believe our community can remain completely apart from such pressing and
relevant issues. But given this is a rather complex and sad conflict I
support our leadership suggestion of refraining from putting
forward discussions of this nature on the list.
Kind regards,
Bruna
On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 1:23 PM Judith Hellerstein <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> HI Bruna,
> I agree with you. The operational policy issues such as sustainability
> and travel do need to be separated out from this list.
>
> As July stated, Politics, war/conflicts should not be discussed within
> ICANN nor should NCSG, NPOC or NCUC be promoting or discussing these.
>
> Best,
> Judith
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> On Nov 1, 2023, at 7:59 AM, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> Thanks for the clarification.
>
> My only suggestion would be for us to separate issues like politics or
> war/conflicts going on in the world from other topics that might be related
> to discussions being promoted at icann like a more sustainable approach to
> travel or the virtual x in person and so on.
>
> And in the latter it might be relevant to ask members whether they would
> like to develop a position on it since these topics might pick up in
> upcoming debates at ICANN.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Bruna
>
> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 12:03 PM Johan Helsingius <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> After some discussions during ICANN78, we would like to remind
>> that while NCSG has clear positions on many issues, there are
>> others, such as the Israel/Hamas conflict, sustainability and
>> virtual versus face to face meeting policy as well as sanctions,
>> where not only there is no official NCSG position, but our members
>> have strong opposing opinions. With some of these issues we should
>> probably develop official positions, while others might be outside
>> or remits, and some are such that it might be impossible to arrive
>> at a common position.
>>
>> Wile we are of course encouraging everyone to feel free to express
>> and support any position they want, we would like to ask you to
>> make it totally clear that you are speaking in personal capacity
>> and that your view in no way constitutes an official NCSG/NPOC/NCUC
>> position.
>>
>> Julf Helsingius, NCSG Chair
>> Tomslin Samme-Nlar, NCSG Policy Committee Chair
>> Benjamin Akinmoyeje, NCUC Chair
>> Juan Manuel Rojas, NPOC Chair
>>
>>
>>
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German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander von
Humboldt Foundation <https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>
Member | Coalizão Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus <https://igcaucus.org/>
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